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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: a doubt about c |
| Date | 2011-06-11 13:07 -0700 |
| Organization | None to speak of |
| Message-ID | <ln8vt89lnu.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> (permalink) |
| References | <7523b6ca-ef28-41c3-99d8-c60273641ddf@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> <it019r$9rg$1@dont-email.me> <4DF3AC4F.502B@mindspring.com> <b2a2d7eb-c23d-48b7-9425-1ab8d8b51372@b1g2000yql.googlegroups.com> |
"dr.oktopus" <blindwilly@freeonline.zzn.com> writes:
> On 11 Giu, 18:56, pete <pfil...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> Shao Miller wrote:
>>
>> > #define ALL_ONES_CHAR ((1 << CHAR_BIT) - 1)
>>
>> That's undefined if sizeof (int) equals one.
>
> I think that ints are required to be at least 16 bits wide,
Yes. Specifically INT_MIN <= -32767, and INT_MAX >= 32767,
which implies that you need at least 16 bits.
> so
> sizeof (int) is always at least 2 (in all ANSI conforming
> implementation)
No. sizeof (int) is at least 2 on systems with CHAR_BIT == 8,
but if CHAR_BIT >= 16, sizeof (int) can be 1.
Almost all modern implementations, and probably all actual hosted
implemenations, have CHAR_BIT==8, but I understand that there are
implemntations for DSPs (digital signal processors) with larger
CHAR_BIT values.
Note that a "byte" is defined in C by the value of CHAR_BIT; if
CHAR_BIT is 16, then a byte is 16 bits, not the more common 8 bits.
Incidentally, it makes more sense to talk about ISO conforming
implementations. ISO issued the C99 standard; ANSI, the US standards
body, adopted it after puplication, as did other national standards
bodies. (The previous standard was originally published by ANSI
in 1989 and adopted by ISO in 1990, and ANSI members have a strong
presence on the ISO committee, but ANSI itself has no real standing
outside the US.) Referring to ISO C can also avoid confusion since,
for historical reasons, the phrase "ANSI C" commonly refers to the
1989/1990 standard, not the current 1999 standard.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
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Re: a doubt about c "dr.oktopus" <blindwilly@freeonline.zzn.com> - 2011-06-11 12:53 -0700
Re: a doubt about c Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2011-06-11 16:01 -0400
Re: a doubt about c Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-11 13:07 -0700
Re: a doubt about c Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-06-11 14:13 -0600
Re: a doubt about c Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-11 23:31 +0100
Re: a doubt about c pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-06-11 20:07 -0400
Re: a doubt about c Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-06-11 23:05 -0600
Re: a doubt about c Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2011-06-11 16:42 -0500
Re: a doubt about c "christian.bau" <christian.bau@cbau.wanadoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-11 14:23 -0700
Re: a doubt about c Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2011-06-11 17:27 -0500
Re: a doubt about c Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-11 15:42 -0700
Re: a doubt about c Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-06-13 14:39 +0000
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