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Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something...

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something...
Date 2017-02-28 16:03 -0800
Organization None to speak of
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Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> writes:
> Given the following program:
>
>     #include <stdio.h>
>
>     int main (void)
>     {
>             unsigned long a = 4000;
>             signed long b = -10;
>             int c;
>
>             c = a * b;
>             printf("%d\n", c);
>
>             return 0;
>     }
>
> I am surprised that I get a negative answer.
[...]

Multiplying an unsigned long by a signed long converts the signed long
operand to unsigned long.  Converting -10 to unsigned long yields
ULONG_MAX-9, which when multiplied by 4000 yields some large number that
wraps around in the usual manner.  On my system, with 64-bit long, the
result is 18446744073709511616; with 32-bit long, it's 4294927296.

The assignment converts that value from unsigned long to (signed) int.
The behavior is undefined (assuming that value exceeds INT_MAX, which it
almost certainly does, but *typically* it will discard the high-order
bits yielding -40000.

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"usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2017-02-28 18:33 -0500
  Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-02-28 23:45 +0000
    Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-28 16:59 -0800
      Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-03-01 02:20 +0000
        Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-28 18:51 -0800
      Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-01 12:04 +0000
        Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-01 08:25 -0800
          Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-01 16:47 +0000
            Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-01 09:43 -0800
              Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-01 18:00 +0000
                Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-01 10:15 -0800
                Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-03-01 19:08 +0000
          Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-03-01 09:01 -0800
  Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-02-28 15:49 -0800
  Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-28 16:03 -0800
    Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Nick Bowler <nbowler@draconx.ca> - 2017-03-01 21:53 +0000
      Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-01 14:18 -0800
  Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2017-03-01 08:29 -0500
    Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2017-03-01 09:11 -0500
    Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-01 08:59 -0800
  Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-03-01 14:00 +0000
    Re: "usual arithmetic conversions": please explain something... "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-03-01 10:58 -0500

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