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Re: [meta] how to attack a problem

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: [meta] how to attack a problem
Date 2015-07-06 07:48 -0700
Organization None to speak of
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maddoxr@acm.org writes:
[...]
> Actually, no.  What I meant was that the problem and the solution are
> opposite sides of the same coin, the white and black of the yin and
> yang symbol, a single whole that we only perceive as separate parts
> until we see the unity.  Then we understand, and both the solution and
> the problem are obvious.

There are problems for which that's true, where once you understand the
problem clearly enough, the solution is reasonably obvious.

There are also problems for which that is definitely *not* true, where
the problem can be understood from a simple and straightforward
description, but the solution is *extremely* complex.

Examples are Fermat's Last Theorem and the Four Color Map Theorem, both
of which have simple statements but took literally centuries of effort
to solve.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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[meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 06:15 -0700
  Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 06:26 -0700
  Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 06:34 -0700
    Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 06:35 -0700
      Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 06:51 -0700
  Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Aleksandar Kuktin <akuktin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 14:31 +0000
    Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 07:38 -0700
      Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Ed Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 14:50 -0700
        Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 15:16 -0700
          Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Ed Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 14:25 -0700
            Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 16:00 -0700
              Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 16:06 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 12:21 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem maddoxr@acm.org - 2015-07-01 07:09 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:01 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:20 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:33 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-02 08:35 +0200
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 07:18 +0200
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 23:48 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-02 07:33 -0500
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 09:44 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 09:47 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 09:58 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-02 12:33 -0500
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 10:37 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem maddoxr@acm.org - 2015-07-03 06:01 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-03 10:58 -0500
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 09:07 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 05:20 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 05:23 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-06 08:37 -0400
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem maddoxr@acm.org - 2015-07-06 07:01 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-06 10:31 -0400
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-06 07:48 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-07-06 19:07 +0000
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 12:32 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-06 10:06 -0500
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 08:49 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 14:03 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 14:52 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 14:05 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 01:27 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-06 16:19 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 18:17 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 18:58 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-07-06 21:09 -0600
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-07-07 15:14 -0500
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-07 14:50 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-07-07 21:20 -0600
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 04:01 -0700
      Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Aleksandar Kuktin <akuktin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 00:58 +0000
        Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 10:31 -0700
    Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Ed Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 14:41 -0700
      Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Aleksandar Kuktin <akuktin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 00:57 +0000
  Re: [meta] how to attack a problem luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 19:32 -0700

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