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Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8

From Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8
Date 2014-06-03 22:13 -0500
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On 2014-06-04 00:07:43 +0000, Tim McNamara said:

> On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 15:24:32 -0500, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
> wrote:
>> On 2014-06-03 19:48:12 +0000, Lewis said:
>> 
>>> After a day and some time to go back over some parts of the Keynote I
>>> think the most important announcements are
>>> 
>>> 1) A file browser for iCloud Drive for OS X and iOS
>> 
>> That is certainly a big thing imo.  When I wanted some cloud space to
>> use, I didn't give any consideration to iCloud at all as it couldn't
>> be used like a drive and the cost was way out of whack with the
>> competition.  With this new change upcoming I'll be able to use it
>> effectively for all my cloud storage needs/wants.
>> 
>>> 2) The Ability of an app to open another Apps documents (from
>>> iCloud), and edit them *in place* without having to make new copies.
>> 
>> yep, this is very nice to have too.
>> 
>>> 3) Extensions that allow apps to provide services to other apps.
>> 
>> I think this last one will be the biggest thing to come out of all
>> this though most won't probably notice why things just got so much
>> better.
>> 
>>> 
>>> The more I think about it, the more I am sure these are not just huge
>>> massive changes to the entire philosophy of iOS, but also fundamental
>>> changes that are going to change *everything* for iOS and Mac users.
>>> 
>>> A year from now, when we're looking at the coming changes in iOS 9,
>>> they will be refinements and polish on iOS 8. This makes every single
>>> previous iOS update look like a 0.1 update.
>> 
>> Overall I think the thrust of all of this was as much about
>> integrating the Apple ecosystem beyond what we've ever seen from
>> others so far.  IOW, the culmination of years of building the whole
>> widget!
> 
> Not to poop the party but aren't all of these things already available
> in other ecosystems?  A couple of them may be better implemented in OS X
> and iOS but in some ways aren't we cheering things finally being the way
> they should have always been (esp iCloud)?

Yes some of the things are half-way available in one other ecosystem 
and that would be Windows 8.1  But then Apple has been superb over the 
years in bringing some already 1/2 done things to fruition properly.  I 
fully expect to see that with the 2 new OS's and new apps coming in the 
fall.

And iCloud is an oddity.  I never got more than the free storage 
because it had so little actual use, never even came close to using all 
of it.  Strangely enough some of the new things they talked about are 
actually revamps and re-releases of what we had with iDisk and MobileMe 
from a few years ago.

> 
> And when are they going to fix the bloated nightmare that is iTunes,
> returning it to music management and breaking out the sync functions
> into a more effective and efficient app?  Maybe they'll also eventually
> fix Calendar and Contact local syncing, which still ain't right.

I've not had issues with iTunes as it is, so can't really comment.


-- 
Lloyd

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A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 19:48 +0000
  Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-06-03 15:24 -0500
    Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-03 19:07 -0500
      Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-04 03:10 +0000
      Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-06-03 22:13 -0500
        Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-03 21:23 -0700
          Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 03:58 +0000
        Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-03 21:37 -0700
          Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-06-04 07:25 -0500
            Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-05 09:47 +1200
  Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-06-03 21:55 -0700
    Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 16:01 +0000
      Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-06-04 19:54 -0700
        Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-06-04 20:03 -0700
          Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-05 16:44 +1200
        Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-05 16:47 +1200
          Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-05 02:49 -0400
            Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 14:21 +0000
              Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-05 15:42 -0400
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 19:56 +0000
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 21:27 +0000
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-05 17:35 -0400
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 21:50 +0000
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-11 18:42 +1200
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2014-06-11 10:53 -0400
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 15:35 +0000
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2014-06-12 16:50 -0400
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-12 09:12 +1200
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-11 21:23 +0000
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-12 03:55 -0400
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-12 10:06 -0500
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-12 18:33 +0000
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-12 18:52 -0700
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-13 10:57 -0500
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-13 18:08 -0400
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-13 18:15 -0400
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-06-12 22:31 -0700
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-13 18:15 +1200
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-06-15 12:54 -0700
                Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 15:40 +0000
          Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2014-06-05 19:11 -0400
            Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 17:14 -0700
              Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2014-06-05 22:44 -0400
          Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 20:54 -0400
        Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 05:15 +0000
    Re: A day later on Yosemite and iOS8 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 04:00 +0000

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