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Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network

From Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network
Date 2014-05-20 16:58 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <llg1kc$4d3$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References <20140520123331.80c3bede.rsw@therandymon.com> <bu15tgForfpU1@mid.individual.net>

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On 2014-05-20, Mike Easter wrote:
> Schneier does a fairly good job of presenting the arguments /against/ 
> his open network; and the articles at the links he provided which rebut 
> his position also do a good job of disagreeing with his policy.
>
> I don't think his arguments /for/ opening his network are at all 
> persuasive.  He says "To me, it's basic politeness. Providing internet 
> access to guests is kind of like providing heat and electricity, or a 
> hot cup of tea."
>
> The provision of access to house guests is not the same as 
> 'permanent'/continuous provision of access to anyone in the 
> neighborhood/ wifi range.  My belief is that he has a responsibility to 
> secure his network access limited to his family and his invited house 
> guests (who he has also 'invited' to share his network access, but not 
> any of those he has not).

I agree with you.  I have my network key posted just above the
router in my house.  Free for guests, not for neighbors.

I live in an urban area, and if I open my network, I'm afraid my
connection will crawl to a halt.  Comcast has actually turned off my
modem before for using too much bandwidth (trying to transfer
several gigs between servers, and saturated my 1 Mbps upload pipe
for 24 hours).  Not that they'll admit it.

But with DD-WRT and many other router firmwares supporting guest
networks, the security concerns are becoming moot.  You can have
your normal WPA2/PSK network on one channel, and a low-priority open
guest network on another channel.  Best of both worlds.

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Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-20 12:33 +0000
  Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-05-20 07:07 -0700
    Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-20 16:58 +0000
    Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-20 21:56 +0000
      Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-05-20 15:44 -0700
  Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-21 09:09 +0200
    Re: Bruce Schneier runs an open wireless network RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-21 18:58 +0000

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