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| From | Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.fan.mozilla, gnu.misc.discuss, misc.int-property, comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia |
| Date | 2014-05-15 20:57 -0400 |
| Organization | SilverLips.ca |
| Message-ID | <ll3npt$sdb$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <ll1gr8$gll$10@dont-email.me> <CF99D185.3754A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <ll3400$lps$2@dont-email.me> <CF9AA577.37615%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <ll3mec$ipt$3@dont-email.me> |
Cross-posted to 4 groups.
On 14-05-15 08:34 PM, bleak_fire_ wrote: > on the great fire of Thu, 15 May 2014 17:10:15 -0700, Snit leapt from the > flames and sang: > >> On 5/15/14, 12:19 PM, in article ll3400$lps$2@dont-email.me, >> "bleak_fire_" <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> wrote: >> >>>>>>> Wow, you must be really sick in the head with control and abuse >>>>>>> issues if you believe browsers should put DRM and kill-switches in >>>>>>> every picture and video. >>>>>> >>>>>> What is your better solution? Flash? What? I am open to listening. >>>>> >>>>> I already told you. If you want to infect yourself with DRM via PUPs >>>>> like Flash and Silverlight, shoot up. >>>> >>>> So Flash or Silverlight. And you think this is bad? Um, how? >>>> >>>> In the end you have no real solution. You do not like DRM... so what? >>>> Why not work to make these proprietary solutions redundant and >>>> unnecessary? Are you really in love with the idea of helping Adobe >>>> (mostly) and Microsoft (a bit)? >>> >>> DRM is proprietary. >> >> First, what is being added is EME, not DRM. And ERM does allow for the >> use of DRM without the use of Flash or Silverlight. Here, this might >> help you to understand it better: <http://ars.to/13KG31t>. > > DRM is proprietary, no matter who does it or how. > The inner nature (source code, trade secret, or anything else) of DRM > cannot legally be examined, published, or discussed without violating > federal copyright and trade secret laws. Thus it is impossible to have > "open DRM". Whether it be EME or a browser plugin, DRM is proprietary, > there is no "open DRM", as something which cannot be opened is not "open". If Mozilla indeed goes the DRM route, tell yourself that it is essentially meaningless as forks of the Mozilla browser will appear excluding the offending content. Debian already uses IceWeasel whereas the Trisquel GNU/Linux distribution uses ABrowser which is another Mozilla without any kind of proprietary content. There's no reason to believe that such browsers wouldn't be made available to users of proprietary operating systems as well. The very nature of free software is such that if a project ever chooses what we consider to be the wrong path, we can easily set it straight with our own version of that project. -- Silver Slimer OpenMedia Supporter www.silverlips.ca
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More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 03:18 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 20:28 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 03:45 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 20:54 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 04:34 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 21:41 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 04:46 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 02:05 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 19:19 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:10 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-16 00:34 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:43 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-16 07:04 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-16 07:07 -0500
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 07:38 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 13:09 -0400
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 17:51 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 19:03 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 07:32 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 17:05 +0200
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 08:14 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 20:57 -0400
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:26 +0200
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 06:40 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:47 +0200
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 07:54 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 10:02 +0200
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-15 10:35 +0200
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-15 07:03 -0500
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-15 05:57 -0400
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 09:06 -0400
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 08:58 -0400
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 19:21 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:50 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-16 07:06 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-16 07:33 -0400
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-16 11:09 -0600
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 07:33 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:20 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 21:04 +0000
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