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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.free.newsservers |
| Subject | Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. |
| Date | 2014-05-15 16:15 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <ll379i$fb6$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (5 earlier) <ll2e0n$crk$2@dont-email.me> <Jeff-Relf.Me@May.15{6.23.Seattle.2014}> <ll2jjn$mvd$1@dont-email.me> <k-mdnay2ze1DaenOnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@bresnan.com> <ll32a9$9qv$1@dont-email.me> |
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Silver Slimer wrote:
> On 14-05-15 01:09 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 5/15/2014 8:39 AM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>>> On 14-05-15 09:23 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>> @Silver·Slimer, When I say "DirectX 11.1 is faster",
>>>> I'm comparing it with prior versions, not OpenGL.
>>>>
>>>> Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time;
>>>> so my DirectX 11.1 code interacts with Win8
>>>> in away that OpenGL would not, could not.
>>>>
>>>> Again:
>>>>
>>>> Mozilla FireFox/Thunderbird uses DirectX.
>>>> Linux/Unix never had the best graphics.
>>>>
>>>> DirectX 11.1 has improved support for
>>>> hardware accelerated decoding -- "WindowsCodecs.H",
>>>> .JPG, h264 ( .MP4, .MKV ), etc.
>>>>
>>>> This shows how I mix Consolas with MS Mincho:
>>>> http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Glyph.JPG
>>>> http://Jeff-Relf.Me/DirectX.CPP
>>> I await to see how DirectX 11.1 compares with the latest OpenGL. If
>>> there is no comparison whatsoever and DirectX wins handily, I'll be
>>> forced to keep my gaming PC on Windows.
>> http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/08/07/khronos-releases-opengl-4-3/#null
>>
>> This may help give an idea of to what is happening.
>
> It's not entirely clear as benchmarks aren't really offered. I get the
> impression that the end result will be that performance will strictly
> depend on the engine being used. Some will run better in GNU/Linux than
> Windows because they'll be made with OpenGL and use an engine A whereas
> some games will run better in Windows than in GNU/Linux because they
> were made with DirectX in mind. In the end, nothing will really change.
>
There's more to it than that.
On Windows, the OpenGL driver on regular desktop cards,
is slowed down on purpose. That's to make you buy a
"certified OpenGL card" for CAD applications. So you
can't get away with using a $100 card for CAD. At low object
counts, there would not be an issue. If you use high object
counts, funny (slow) things begin to happen. Then you're
supposed to drive to the computer store, and buy a $1000
FireGL card (with $100 GPU on it).
The DirectX 3D path on Windows, is less likely to be gated.
On the other hand, there could be underhanded attempts
to accelerate popular benchmarks, so the benchmarks end
up being a dishonest effort.
The summary would be, I wouldn't waste time testing this,
because anyone reviewing your results, would only spend
the rest of the week picking your methodology apart. No
matter what the results are, what test had a higher or
lower frame rate, it doesn't say anything about how
the stuff fundamentally works. Or whether the results
would change, if the playing field was entirely flat
(no tricks to help the marketing department).
Paul
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Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-12 18:28 -0600
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-13 15:14 -0500
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 18:17 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 15:04 -0500
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 22:25 +0200
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:20 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:22 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:29 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:32 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:38 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:47 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:49 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 15:34 -0700
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 15:37 -0700
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:08 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 17:37 -0700
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:22 +0200
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 15:33 -0700
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 16:47 -0500
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:03 -0400
Dual Quad Cores, with a faster RAID controller. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-14 19:02 -0700
Re: Dual Quad Cores, with a faster RAID controller. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 22:31 -0400
Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-14 22:15 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 09:04 -0400
Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-15 06:23 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 10:39 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 16:48 +0200
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 11:08 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-15 16:13 +0100
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 11:26 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-15 16:35 +0100
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 11:54 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-15 17:01 +0100
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 12:08 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-15 22:31 +0100
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 12:56 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-16 18:06 +0100
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 13:39 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-17 10:31 +0100
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-17 08:22 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-17 16:45 +0100
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-17 09:01 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-17 16:22 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-17 21:32 +0100
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-17 15:47 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-17 19:30 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-17 16:34 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-18 14:02 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-18 18:53 +0000
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-17 21:47 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-17 15:49 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-17 07:35 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-17 19:24 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-18 01:07 +0100
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-17 17:22 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-17 22:55 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-17 20:29 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-17 21:52 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-17 18:56 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-17 16:26 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 17:49 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:01 -0700
Like @snit, @Hadron is hopeless. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-15 13:25 -0700
Re: Like @snit, @Hadron is hopeless. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 18:38 -0400
Re: Like @snit, @Hadron is hopeless. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-16 00:59 +0200
Re: Like @snit, @Hadron is hopeless. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 19:16 -0400
How would you do this, in Linux ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-15 16:02 -0700
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 19:18 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-15 17:20 -0600
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 19:46 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:03 -0700
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 16:51 -0700
How would you do this, in Linux ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-15 17:02 -0700
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 20:07 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-15 23:30 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 14:52 +0200
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 16:51 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-16 17:09 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 18:41 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-16 18:55 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 20:31 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-17 08:20 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-17 10:39 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-17 10:47 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-17 20:49 +0200
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-17 11:57 -0700
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2014-05-17 20:08 +0100
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-17 12:29 -0700
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2014-05-18 11:44 +0200
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-18 08:45 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-18 08:40 -0700
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-17 16:27 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-17 16:24 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-17 19:53 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-17 21:53 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-18 11:14 +0200
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-18 09:31 -0400
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-18 08:36 -0700
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-18 08:42 -0700
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-18 17:47 +0200
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-18 09:15 -0700
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-18 18:28 +0000
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-18 11:53 -0700
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2014-05-18 23:09 +0100
Re: How would you do this, in Linux ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-18 16:37 -0700
Re: Like @snit, @Hadron is hopeless. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:03 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 11:11 -0400
I like MicroSoft -because- it's mainstream. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-15 13:35 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:22 -0700
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-15 11:09 -0600
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 14:50 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-15 13:25 -0600
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 18:35 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-16 00:56 +0200
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 19:12 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 00:15 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 12:43 +0200
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 07:43 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-15 17:13 -0600
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 19:34 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-15 18:21 -0600
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 20:27 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2014-05-15 16:15 -0400
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 12:42 +0200
Re: Windows 8's UI uses DirectX 11.1, big time. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 13:00 -0400
DirectX 11.1 is now part of the Windows 8 SDK. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-14 22:21 -0700
Re: Dual Quad Cores, with a faster RAID controller. Jesse <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2014-05-14 22:02 -0500
Re: Dual Quad Cores, with a faster RAID controller. ?? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-15 06:51 -0500
Re: Dual Quad Cores, with a faster RAID controller. ?? "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <gregoryhall@home.fake> - 2014-05-15 18:53 -0400
Re: Dual Quad Cores, with a faster RAID controller. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-26 22:55 -0400
$999 Dell UltraSharp UP2414Q. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-26 21:32 -0700
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:20 +0200
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-05-15 04:33 -0700
I just bought a $430 graphics card. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-15 06:51 -0700
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 15:33 -0700
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 13:16 -0700
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 14:31 -0700
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:19 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 19:45 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 17:12 -0700
The Linux advantage. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-14 20:02 -0700
Re: The Linux advantage. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-15 09:46 +0200
Re: The Linux advantage. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 02:09 -0700
Re: The Linux advantage. Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 11:29 +0200
Re: The Linux advantage. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 16:51 -0700
Re: The Linux advantage.  Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 09:55 +0200
Re: The Linux advantage. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 08:50 -0400
When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-15 06:35 -0700
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 10:47 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-15 09:56 -0500
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-15 10:05 -0500
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-15 12:00 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 12:03 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 22:47 +0000
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 19:05 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-15 23:51 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 07:41 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-16 04:57 -0700
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 18:10 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-16 18:21 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 18:45 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-16 18:57 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 20:40 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 17:54 -0700
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 18:16 -0700
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 17:53 -0700
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-20 10:03 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-20 10:11 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-20 21:09 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-21 07:51 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-20 16:22 +0000
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-20 10:16 -0700
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-20 13:29 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-20 18:53 +0000
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-20 12:11 -0700
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Tralfaz <directly_above_the_center_of_the_earth@santas_deer_poop_too_much.org> - 2014-05-20 16:24 +0000
The average troll has the brain of a Spider Monkey Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-20 13:02 -0400
Re: The average troll has the brain of a Spider Monkey Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-20 17:12 +0000
Re: The average troll has the brain of a Spider Monkey Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-20 10:26 -0700
Re: The average troll has the brain of a Spider Monkey DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-20 13:36 -0400
Re: The average troll has the brain of a Spider Monkey flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-20 14:11 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-20 13:47 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-20 14:19 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 18:41 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 19:20 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 20:43 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 18:17 -0700
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 17:52 -0700
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 00:09 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 12:44 +0200
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 12:56 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 13:25 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 13:55 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 14:17 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-16 14:35 -0600
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 11:09 -0400
Re: When you quote too much, I dump the post, unread. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:00 -0700
Re: The Linux advantage. Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2014-05-16 11:52 +0000
Re: The Linux advantage. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 12:01 -0400
Re: The Linux advantage. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 09:15 -0700
Re: The Linux advantage. "Steve Carroll." <fretwizzin@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 09:19 -0700
Re: The Linux advantage. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-16 11:06 -0600
Re: The Linux advantage. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 13:27 -0400
Re: The Linux advantage. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 13:57 -0400
Re: The Linux advantage. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 14:18 -0400
The best relationships are all business, no bullshit. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-16 16:26 -0700
Re: The best relationships are all business, no bullshit. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 20:49 -0400
Re: The best relationships are all business, no bullshit. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 22:25 -0400
Compared to the internet, people are boring. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-16 20:25 -0700
Re: The best relationships are all business, no bullshit. Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-17 10:33 -0400
Re: The Linux advantage. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 13:51 -0400
Re: The Linux advantage. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-16 14:40 -0600
Re: The Linux advantage. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 17:40 -0700
I automate Visual Studio Pro 2013, big time. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-16 16:07 -0700
Re: I automate Visual Studio Pro 2013, big time. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 19:17 -0400
100% off Visual Studio Ultimate 2013, today only. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-16 16:59 -0700
Visual Studio 2013 costs $500; $315 to upgrade. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-16 15:52 -0700
Re: Visual Studio 2013 costs $500; $315 to upgrade. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-16 17:11 -0600
Are you using Visual Studio Pro 2010 ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-16 16:51 -0700
Re: Are you using Visual Studio Pro 2010 ? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-16 19:54 -0600
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 12:52 -0700
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-12 15:10 -0600
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 20:11 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 17:20 -0700
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-12 18:32 -0600
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 20:39 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 17:41 -0700
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-13 15:16 -0500
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 18:06 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-13 17:29 -0500
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 18:30 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-13 17:39 -0500
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-10 09:11 -0500
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-10 11:24 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2014-05-09 00:53 +0000
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-08 21:02 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:35 -0400
Re: And Amazon's No. 1 selling Desktop is ... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-08 21:03 -0400
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