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Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL

From Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL
Date 2014-05-12 20:19 -0400
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On 14-05-12 05:53 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2014-05-12, Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> wrote:
>> On 14-05-12 03:24 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2014-05-12, Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> wrote:
>>>> On 14-05-12 01:18 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-05-12, Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> wrote:
>>>>>> Some of it might explain why most new games use DirectX rather than
>>>>>> OpenGL which would have made it easy to port games to all three platforms.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and the fact that the monopoly desktop vendor has their own standard
>>>>> that they like to push has nothing to do with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> [deletia]
>>>>>
>>>>>    It's also more than 3 platforms. It's more like 7+.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Anything that's not Microsoft is going to require leaving Direct3D behind.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Game consoles...
>>>>>
>>>>>    All of those phones, tablets, and streamers...
>>>>>
>>>>>    Linux or MacOS are just the tip of the iceberg.
>>>>
>>>> There might be more platforms but it would be laughable to suggest BSD
>>>> or something like Solaris ever becoming a gaming platform.
>>>>
>>>
>>>     You are the only idiot suggesting such a thing.
>>
>> Ah, name-calling. Beautiful.
>>
>> Were you suggesting platforms like iOS and Android? If so, you could
>> have made it more clear that you weren't referring only to desktop
>> platforms.
> 
>     Consoles have been a driving force in the games market for over
> a decade. If you are going to blither about something, at least 
> pretend that you have half a clue about it. Mobile platforms have
> also been the new thing. There was movement in this direction even
> before the smartphones became big and splashy in the news media.
> Like I already said. If you are going to blather baout something, at
> least pretend that you have half a clue about it.    

Consoles have NOT been the driving force in the games market at all.
They might get great sales because they're generally more affordable
than gaming machines and don't require upgrades but every single gaming
publication will tell you that innovation still starts at the PC level.
Maybe consoles innovate as it relates to control schemes, but the PC's
power still determines what kind of games developers will be able to
make for consoles in the following years.

As for "having a clue" about gaming, you're literally talking to an
expert here. I know the entire history of games, the names behind the
technology and the series, the reasons of the successes and failures of
platforms as well as the technology in each machine. *YOU* clearly don't
know shit in believing that because casual smartphone/tablet games sell
well they'll somehow become a driving force for the games market.
Absolutely NO expert would agree with you on this. In fact, some of the
companies which made fortunes in developing smartphone/tablet casual
games are seeing their profits decrease to the point that they're
scrambling to find the next big thing.

-- 
Silver Slimer
Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter

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Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 12:36 -0400
  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-12 12:18 -0500
    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-12 13:07 -0500
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 14:53 -0400
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-12 14:26 -0500
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-12 13:31 -0500
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-05-12 21:25 +0200
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-12 14:47 -0500
    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 20:23 +0200
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 15:12 -0400
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-12 14:38 -0500
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-12 15:13 -0500
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 20:08 -0400
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 17:19 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 17:51 -0700
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-13 15:23 -0500
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-13 15:48 -0500
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 13:57 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 18:20 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 15:22 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 09:40 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 18:19 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-14 00:49 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 19:09 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 15:14 -0500
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-14 20:55 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-15 06:47 -0500
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 16:58 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-14 06:48 -0500
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 10:27 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 10:53 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 17:25 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 12:28 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 09:42 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 22:39 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 19:41 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 08:46 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:04 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:41 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 12:22 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 09:37 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 18:38 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 09:52 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 12:54 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:59 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:24 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 12:32 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 15:15 -0500
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 15:13 -0500
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:21 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:26 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:31 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:35 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:41 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:50 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 15:36 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 19:09 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 12:59 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 16:47 -0500
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-14 20:51 -0400
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 21:30 -0700
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 20:05 -0400
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-13 15:21 -0500
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 14:45 +0200
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-13 17:38 -0400
    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 14:48 -0400
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-12 14:24 -0500
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 15:48 -0400
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-12 15:19 -0600
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-12 16:53 -0500
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-12 17:14 -0600
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 20:19 -0400
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-13 15:18 -0500
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 18:16 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 15:12 -0500
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:24 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:28 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:37 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:44 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:48 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:51 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 16:51 -0500
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 00:29 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 19:16 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:13 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 19:32 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:49 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 20:10 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 20:21 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 20:34 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 17:49 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 22:58 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 23:15 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 23:19 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 20:29 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:19 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 08:56 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:18 -0700
                Real Life girl$$$ aren't that hot.  Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-15 03:21 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 08:49 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:17 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 17:30 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 17:32 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 17:21 -0700
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-13 07:02 -0500
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 10:17 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:06 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:10 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 08:41 -0700
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-12 15:19 -0600
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 20:13 -0400
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-12 18:40 -0600
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-12 21:22 -0400
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2014-05-12 20:50 -0600
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 10:08 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:13 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-13 11:18 -0600
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 13:52 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-13 12:55 -0600
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 17:47 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-13 20:09 -0600
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 22:22 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 19:39 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 07:38 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 10:24 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:30 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 19:43 -0700
  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 11:21 +0100
    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 10:16 -0400
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 15:37 +0100
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 16:56 +0200
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 16:01 +0100
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-13 11:16 -0400
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:18 -0700
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 16:38 +0100
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-13 12:27 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 09:42 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 18:35 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 10:39 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 09:41 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 09:45 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:33 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 15:58 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:25 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:12 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:29 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 17:35 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 18:40 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:48 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 09:50 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:42 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 17:57 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 10:07 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 18:36 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 10:51 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 18:55 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 11:51 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 14:41 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-05-14 20:48 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 14:50 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 14:51 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 12:04 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 12:07 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 14:30 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 11:55 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 10:09 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 09:49 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:54 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 17:23 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:39 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:33 -0700
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-13 12:26 -0400
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 18:51 +0200
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 18:33 +0100
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 09:21 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 09:38 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 17:21 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 15:54 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 12:14 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 18:36 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 17:46 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 09:54 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 10:03 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 19:34 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 10:44 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:27 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 16:56 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:14 +0200
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-15 10:18 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 11:31 +0200
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 10:59 -0400
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 16:02 +0100
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 11:11 -0400
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:17 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 08:39 -0700
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 16:37 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 11:45 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 16:58 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 08:50 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 09:08 -0700
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-13 11:06 -0400
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 11:11 -0400
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:13 -0700
    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-13 11:30 -0400
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-13 11:34 -0400
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 08:38 -0700
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 08:48 -0700
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-13 11:21 -0600
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 10:28 -0700
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 10:43 -0700
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 09:08 -0700

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