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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation

From	DFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation
Date	2014-04-23 18:05 -0400
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On 04/23/2014 05:59 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2014-04-22, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>
>> 8<
>>
>>> * all messages logged on a date cat logfile | grep ^YYYY-MM-DD
>>>
>>> * first and last 25 messages on a date cat logfile | grep
>>> ^YYYY-MM-DD | head -n 25 cat logfile | grep ^YYYY-MM-DD | tail -n
>>> 25
>>>
>>> * all messages related to gparted cat logfile | grep gparted
>>
>> Yes, /that's/ how it's done ;-)
>
> Log viewer app?  How quaint.  Sounds like something Windows would
> use.

It's a Gnome app for Linux.  Been around forever.  The one in Ubuntu is 
copyrighted by the FSF... you know them, don't you?  The giggly twerps 
who sit around and bitch about Microsoft while begging for an allowance.

Sound familiar?

> And then, instead of using stock system tools (e.g. as noted above),
> you end up with something like this:
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa385785(v=vs.85).aspx
>
>
> The following are the programming elements that you use to create an
> instrumentation manifest, create resources from the manifest that
> your provider uses, get instrumentation metadata at run time, and
> query events from channels and log files:
>
> -  EventManifest Schema -  Event Schema -  Query Schema -  Windows
> Event Log Constants -  Windows Event Log Data Types -  Windows Event
> Log Enumerations -  Windows Event Log Functions -  Windows Event Log
> Structures -  Windows Event Log Tools
>
> And here's just the function page:
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa385784(v=vs.85).aspx
>
>
>
> Windows... the Rube Goldberg OS.

Poor Creepy++

"Boo hoo!!! Windows Event Logging is too complex!!  I likes me the 
simpleton Linux way: an unstructured text log file I can process wif 
cat, awk, grep, and pipes!"

Problem with your girlie-man 'analysis' is Windows Event logging is
complex (to you) because it's well-designed and professional and 
sophisticated, as opposed to Linux event logging which is unstructured 
and hobbyist and amateurish.

In Linux, you can't even count on an event date/time being in a
consistent format: kern.log uses 'Apr 23 08:32:36', dpkg.log uses
'2014-04-17 01:21:23', and pm-suspend.log uses 'Wed Apr 23 08:32:37 EDT
2014'.  Some logs put the date first, others put it later in the event
line.  Some logs don't even have date info in them.

It's typical Linux slopware chaos.

Windows Event logging is FAR superior.  From the GUI Event Viewer, to 
custom log views, to the XML infrastructure of the log data, to the 
Event logging API and SDK, to the granularity of the Events and their 
properties, to the command line mgmt utility wevtutil, to the 
documentation, it absolutely puts Linux to shame.

Here Creepy++, I'll get you started on some CLI stuff:

list of logs (there are nearly 500 available)
# wevtutil el

list of event publishers
(apps, services, drivers that write to the event logs)
# wevtutil ep

info about an event publisher
# wevtutil gp Workstation

get status info about a log
# wevtutil gli System

export the log to a file
# wevtutil epl System  D:\my_system.log

query logs for events
(eg errors or warnings logged the last 2 hours)
# wevtutil qe System /q:"*[System[(Level=2 or Level=3) and
TimeCreated[timediff(@SystemTime)<=7200000]]]" /f:text /rd:True

command reference
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc732848.aspx

to open the Event Viewer
# eventvwr

Plus, you can use the Event Viewer to construct a sophisticated custom 
query, then cut and paste it and edit it for use in wevtutil or scripting.

Note: the above is what's known as a beatdown: me on you, and Windows on 
Linux.

Thread

Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-22 14:42 -0400
  Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-04-22 20:51 +0200
    Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-22 16:19 -0400
      Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2014-04-23 05:31 +0000
        Long Term Shithead: Bug #10 - whining about documentation Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-23 05:59 -0400
          Re: Long Term Shithead: Bug #10 - whining about documentation chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-23 06:50 -0500
            Re: Long Term Shithead: Bug #10 - whining about documentation 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-23 08:42 -0400
            Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-23 10:21 -0400
            Re: Long Term Shithead: Bug #10 - whining about documentation GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-23 08:54 -0600
            Re: Long Term Shithead: Bug #10 - whining about documentation Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 13:07 +0200
          Re: Long Term Shithead: Bug #10 - whining about documentation 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-23 08:38 -0400
          Re: Long Term Shithead: Bug #10 - whining about documentation GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-23 08:53 -0600
          Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-23 18:05 -0400
            Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-23 18:12 -0400
              Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-23 21:37 -0400
            Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 13:17 +0200
          Re: Long Term Shithead: Bug #10 - whining about documentation Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 13:06 +0200
        Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-23 10:19 -0400
          Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2014-04-23 23:26 +0000
  Re: Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Shitware: Bug #10 - log viewer app missing menus shown in documentation Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-22 12:35 -0700

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