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Re: OT - TV

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: OT - TV
Date 2026-10-14 12:53 +0200
Organization Tebibyte_Retro_Gaming
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On 2026-10-14 07:14, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 20:16:10 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> 
>> I'm sure you are right for someone learning to drive, for that licence
>> reason; but there are (or were? Not sure if still) models that turn off
>> the engine whenever the car is stationary for more than a preset short
>> period. they have bigger batteries for all the extra starts, and I think
>> _may_ have regen. braking to help keep it charged - so could be (and no
>> doubt are) called hybrids, but they aren't really, in that there is no
>> electric _propulsion_ involved. [Are those what are/were called "mild
>> hybrids"?]
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start-stop_system
> 
> They aren't very popular and I think most can be disabled at least on a
> per trip basis. I remember the first time I heard the feature while
> walking by. In my long experience an engine turning off in a queue of cars
> at a stop sign of traffic light is not a Good Thing. It started again as
> the queue moved forward and I was relieved. I thought I might be drafted
> to push a dead car to the shoulder.

Google says about 60% of cars in Spain are start-stop, so that's 
extremely popular.


Año	% en new cars yearly	% of total Spain / europe

2010	~5% - 10%		~1%
2012	23,5% 			~8% - 10%
2015	~70% (UE standard)	~20% - 25%
2018	~85% - 90%		~35%
2022	>95%			~50%
2024	>98%			61%
2026 	~99% 			>63%
(Almost universal in ICE, microhybrids and hybrids)	



Key facts about this development

  • The regulatory impetus: The massive expansion after 2012 was not 
driven by consumer demand, but by European Union emissions regulations 
(the NEDC and, subsequently, the WLTP cycles). Manufacturers were 
obliged to fit the Start-Stop system as standard in virtually 100 per 
cent of their combustion-engine models to reduce certified CO₂ levels 
and avoid fines running into millions.

  • The bottleneck in the vehicle fleet: Although almost every car 
purchased since 2015 is fitted with this system, Spain has over 15 
million cars that are more than 15 years old. As the vehicle fleet is 
not being renewed at the same rate as in other European countries, 
around 35 per cent of vehicles on the road still use older technologies 
that lack this automatic shut-off system.

  • Current paradigm shift: In recent years, the traditional start-stop 
system using a reinforced starter motor is naturally giving way to mild 
hybrid (48V) and conventional hybrid systems. These manage the engine’s 
start-stop cycle much more smoothly and imperceptibly to the driver via 
an alternator-generator.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:39 +0100
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                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:17 +0000
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                Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:20 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-28 15:45 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:30 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:46 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:25 +0100
                Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 16:40 +0100
                OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 16:58 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:19 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:57 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:00 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) André Coutanche <acoutanche@gmx.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 21:50 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:33 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 22:48 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:07 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 15:51 -0700
                Re: OT - Lehrer c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 21:02 -0400
                Re: OT - Lehrer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:22 -0500
                Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:01 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 10:57 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 08:10 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:39 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:46 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:39 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:25 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:34 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:31 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 14:47 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:58 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:36 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:12 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:35 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 16:14 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:35 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:53 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 19:03 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 21:50 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:25 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 00:03 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:13 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:51 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:55 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-30 14:15 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 19:58 +1000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:52 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 22:13 +1000
                Re: OT - TV Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2026-10-08 21:51 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:47 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:47 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-12 11:58 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 22:37 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:17 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:15 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 11:56 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:28 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 15:28 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 10:19 +0200
                [OT] - audio distribution, Rediffusion-style (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:43 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 11:44 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:12 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 18:12 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-27 18:23 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:34 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-28 14:03 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:46 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-29 12:01 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 13:05 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 14:13 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Other John <nomail@here.org> - 2026-09-29 16:53 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 17:12 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:23 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:48 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 07:37 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:28 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:35 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:15 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:15 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:50 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:24 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-01 17:17 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:48 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 13:32 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:52 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-03 21:10 +1000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:39 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:11 -0400
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-04 21:26 +1100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:19 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:36 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 19:18 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 12:47 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 12:50 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:09 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 15:59 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-03 15:56 +0000
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 17:19 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 01:27 -0400
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-05 07:55 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 14:54 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:17 +0000
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-05 11:29 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-05 11:46 +0100
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-06 17:51 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-06 18:58 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 20:36 +0200
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-07 09:00 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:04 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:21 +0200
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-07 11:54 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:37 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:51 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:04 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-08 22:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:15 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:22 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:33 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:20 +0200
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 01:01 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-10-09 20:09 -0700
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 07:03 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-10-10 10:32 -0700
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 19:56 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:35 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:54 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:33 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:52 +0200
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 20:04 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 22:15 +0200
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 03:23 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:44 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:15 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:41 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:40 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:22 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:38 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:17 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:58 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 20:45 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 22:44 -0400
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:45 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:14 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 00:53 -0400
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 12:54 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:31 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 17:39 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:53 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 05:26 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 09:14 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-16 19:29 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 23:02 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-16 22:32 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:35 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 03:28 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:41 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 19:24 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:02 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:16 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:41 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 18:55 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-17 12:52 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 15:03 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 20:08 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 12:51 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 20:05 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 12:26 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:27 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 13:57 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 21:02 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:46 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 17:50 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:52 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-19 02:12 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-17 18:33 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 18:57 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 22:03 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 22:38 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 01:40 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:28 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 13:59 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 21:02 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:45 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-19 02:05 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-19 10:38 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-19 02:01 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 13:03 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 03:26 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:07 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:45 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-17 18:33 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 12:55 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 19:10 +0000
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 13:01 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:33 +0100
                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 17:40 +0200
                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 19:04 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:26 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:07 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 02:28 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:32 +0200
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 00:46 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:29 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:20 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:32 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-09 23:08 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:34 +0200
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 19:30 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 21:56 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-11 21:15 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 11:23 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-11 22:15 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:52 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:54 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 18:35 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-11 18:52 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 20:10 +0100
                Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-11 20:54 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 03:26 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:11 +1100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 02:24 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 03:49 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:58 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:17 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 16:27 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 07:23 +0100
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-12 03:13 -0400
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:07 +1100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:21 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:26 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-13 22:36 +1100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:17 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:55 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:09 +1100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:02 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:01 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 17:58 +1100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 17:46 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:18 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:59 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:29 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 23:46 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:48 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:28 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 19:11 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 22:35 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 01:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 06:16 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:27 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:40 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:54 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-13 19:57 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 21:10 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:06 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 20:21 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 22:09 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 22:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:09 +1100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:31 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 04:24 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-13 17:21 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:47 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 03:53 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 08:54 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 19:27 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-14 11:30 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:12 +1100
                Re: OT - TV Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 00:44 +0100
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:08 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 13:16 +0200
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:23 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:52 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:16 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 19:47 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:00 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 20:28 +0100
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 22:51 -0400
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-14 00:32 -0400
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 01:26 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:08 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:58 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 10:20 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-15 15:25 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 19:11 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-16 01:50 +0000
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-16 00:39 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 10:34 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-16 12:46 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 13:24 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-16 19:01 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 22:38 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:08 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 10:30 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-15 21:24 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 10:17 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-15 20:25 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 10:25 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-16 13:01 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 13:34 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-16 18:47 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 22:31 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 09:07 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:43 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-14 08:29 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:04 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 16:21 +0200
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:48 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 04:56 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 04:48 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-14 05:06 +0000
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 01:57 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 12:23 +0200
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:17 +0000

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