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| From | Syd Rumpo <usenet@nononono.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? |
| Date | 2014-02-21 13:58 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <le7m13$t8n$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 20/02/2014 22:56, AKK wrote: > Am 20.02.2014 22:30, schrieb Rod Pemberton: >> >> What would be a top ten list of commonly used Forth words that should >> NOT be part of a Forth dictionary? (And, why?) >> >> There are a variety non-standard Forth words that are commonly used. >> It's clear many of them should be defined since they're commonly used, >> but its' also clear some of them shouldn't be. >> >> E.g., ANS doesn't define CELL but it's commonly used and easy to define. >> The question is whether CELL should be defined or not. Are there valid >> reasons to not define CELL ? E.g., does using CELL encourage people to >> not use CELLS or CELL+ ? And, does that lead to errors? >> >> I'm sure there are other words that should be avoided in Forth too which >> are commonly implemented. Some of those are obsolete words from old >> Forth >> standards and fig-Forth. >> >> Recently, there was mention of DRIP DIP NUP TAKE or equivalents, but are >> thosed common enough to be top 10? >> >> >> Rod Pemberton > > OK I'll bite: ;-) > > TO because it shouldn't be ticked > > BASE because formatted I/O would be better, and it needs to be > initialized and monitored <snip> Absolutely. BASE is a potential disaster. Just as you use different versions of, say, * depending on the input types and what you want to achieve, so you should use different words to print numbers in different bases. And the number base should always be part of the number in the source, as in 0xB234 $B234 #1234 %1010 or whatever your convention is. Cheers -- Syd
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top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-02-20 16:30 -0500
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-02-20 23:56 +0100
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-02-21 02:40 +0100
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-02-20 21:17 -0800
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Syd Rumpo <usenet@nononono.co.uk> - 2014-02-21 13:58 +0000
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-02-21 11:04 +0000
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2014-02-22 17:10 +0100
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-02-22 13:15 -0600
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-22 21:46 +0000
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-23 15:42 +0000
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-23 15:46 +0000
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Assad Ebrahim <assadebrahim2000@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 12:08 -0800
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-03-03 20:23 +0000
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-03-03 15:58 -0600
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-03-04 01:06 +0100
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-03-06 18:01 +0000
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-03-06 17:59 -0600
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-03-07 11:34 +0000
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-03-07 06:43 -0600
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-03-07 13:07 +0000
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-03-07 08:41 -0600
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Assad Ebrahim <assadebrahim2000@gmail.com> - 2014-03-07 10:17 -0800
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-03-07 13:10 -0600
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Assad Ebrahim <assadebrahim2000@gmail.com> - 2014-03-07 11:32 -0800
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2014-03-07 14:28 +0100
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Assad Ebrahim <assadebrahim2000@gmail.com> - 2014-03-07 22:59 -0800
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-03-08 08:33 +0100
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-03-07 23:21 -1000
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-03-08 04:30 -0600
top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-03-08 03:27 -0800
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-03-08 05:36 -0600
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-03-08 15:39 -0800
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-03-08 14:02 +0000
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-03-08 17:20 -0500
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-03-08 12:36 -1000
Re: top 10 words which should *not* be in a Forth dictionary? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-03-08 18:40 -0500
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