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Re: Cool Stuff for Amateur Radio - APRS

From Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Cool Stuff for Amateur Radio - APRS
Date 2014-02-08 15:10 -0800
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On 2014-02-08 13:58:33 +0000, 2phar said:

> On 2/8/2014 4:07 AM, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
>> 
>> It is possible for authorities to determine not only that you are listening
>> to the radio, but also what frequency you are tuned in to.  The Germans had
>> this technology in WWII, but it was very local and obvious - large detector
>> vans and trench-coated goons roaming the neighborhoods.  By the time 'Nam
>> rolled around, this technology had been placed aboard US airplanes which
>> could detect emissions from local oscillators from many miles away.
>> 
>> Some radios, such as basic crystal sets, that are completely passive, and
>> direct conversion radios may be immune to detection but I wouldn't bet my
>> life on it.  Still, detection of radios would be a lot more work than
>> automated Internet surveillance.
>> 
>> Thanks for the reply.  Your site is interesting.
>> 
> 
> I suspect the local oscillator snooping might not be much good with 
> software defined radio. There may be similar artifacts, but wouldn't it 
> be far more complex?

A direct sampling SDR would do rather well, I think.  It all comes down 
to the threat model - are you existing in a city where there are tens 
or hundreds of thousands of other computers running around the clock?  
Out in the country?  In the woods with a special operations team of 
insurgents?  In the last case I would consider almost every 
communications device to be a giant beacon screaming "DRONE STRIKE ME."

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Cool Stuff for Amateur Radio - APRS Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 15:26 -0800
  Re: Cool Stuff for Amateur Radio - APRS 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-07 18:46 -0500
    Re: Cool Stuff for Amateur Radio - APRS Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 16:13 -0800
      Re: Cool Stuff for Amateur Radio - APRS Massive Unibrow <unibrow@gmail.com> - 2014-02-08 07:52 +0000
        Re: Cool Stuff for Amateur Radio - APRS Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-08 09:07 +0000
          Re: Cool Stuff for Amateur Radio - APRS RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 11:48 +0000
          Re: Cool Stuff for Amateur Radio - APRS 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-08 08:58 -0500
            Re: Cool Stuff for Amateur Radio - APRS Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-08 15:10 -0800
            Re: Cool Stuff for Amateur Radio - APRS Vince Mulhollon <vincemulhollon@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 05:41 -0800
        Re: Cool Stuff for Amateur Radio - APRS "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-02-08 12:17 +0000

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