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Re: External HD Recommendation

From J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: External HD Recommendation
Date 2013-12-30 10:20 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <l9s304$c3d$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References <281220130921464151%otto@bogus.address.com> <l9nbrf$qqu$1@reader2.panix.com> <vilain-E2F745.14592728122013@news.individual.net> <slrnlc1u6b.c4g.g.kreme@amelia.local> <291220132136524546%otto@bogus.address.com>

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On 12/30/13, 12:36 AM, Otto Pylot wrote:
> In article <slrnlc1u6b.c4g.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>>
>> They are all getting progressively worse though.
>
> This sure doesn't instill a lot of confidence in using an external
> drive for backup. I just used CCC to clone my HD to the WD "bookend"
> drive that was just given to me. I'll try to boot from it tomorrow but
> don't expect any problems. It almost seems like I should get another
> drive and clone that as well, just in case. But how many do you really
> need to keep your important data safe? One could sure go crazy with
> this.
>
I used to go crazy with backups.  In the days of floppies, I'd keep at 
least 3 backups and still feel nervous.  When I got a Zip drive, I 
didn't trust it.  I'd keep 2 Zip backups and 3 floppy backups.

I've found hard disks very reliable as hardware.  I've had only one 
fail, the internal drive of a computer I'd retired after 9 years.  I've 
also had one enclosure fail.

In the days of Classic, I never knew when a computer gremlin or an event 
like a power failure would leave a disk unreadable. I fell back on my 
backup often.  Once, when I tried to boot from my backup, the gremlin 
that had made my internal drive unreadable also made my backup 
unreadable.  I was lucky.  The gremlin went away the next day, and 
Apple's disk repair utility was able to fix both disks.

It seems possible that an event like a power failure that happened 
during a backup, might leave both disks unreadable.  Time Machine has a 
provision for that.  Plug in 2 backup disks and tell Time Machine to 
alternate.

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External HD Recommendation Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2013-12-28 09:21 -0800
  Re: External HD Recommendation William Hanna <whanna@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-28 09:44 -0800
    Re: External HD Recommendation Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-12-29 09:37 -0800
      Re: External HD Recommendation Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2013-12-29 10:08 -0800
        Re: External HD Recommendation android <here@there.was> - 2013-12-29 19:15 +0100
  Re: External HD Recommendation billy@MIX.COM - 2013-12-28 20:21 +0000
    Re: External HD Recommendation Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-28 14:59 -0800
      Re: External HD Recommendation Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2013-12-28 15:28 -0800
        Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-28 20:17 -0500
        Re: External HD Recommendation Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-28 17:34 -0800
          Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-28 21:06 -0500
      Re: External HD Recommendation Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-29 04:18 +0000
      Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 04:38 +0000
        Re: External HD Recommendation Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2013-12-29 21:36 -0800
          Re: External HD Recommendation Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-30 01:58 -0800
          Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 10:20 -0500
            Re: External HD Recommendation Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-12-31 07:32 -0800
              Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-31 11:46 -0500
          Re: External HD Recommendation Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-12-30 09:37 -0800
            Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 18:07 +0000
              Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-30 13:13 -0500
              Re: External HD Recommendation Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-12-30 10:27 -0800
                Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 14:15 -0500
                Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 22:43 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-30 18:09 -0500
                Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 22:34 -0500
            Re: External HD Recommendation TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2013-12-30 13:54 -0600
              Re: External HD Recommendation Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2013-12-30 13:14 -0800
              Re: External HD Recommendation Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-12-30 14:49 -0800
          Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 18:01 +0000
    Re: External HD Recommendation Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-29 03:59 +0000
      Re: External HD Recommendation George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-12-29 07:47 -0600
  Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 17:52 -0500
  Re: External HD Recommendation Earl Grey <earl@t.net> - 2013-12-29 10:06 -0500
    Re: External HD Recommendation yellow label <here@there.was> - 2013-12-29 17:01 +0100
  Re: External HD Recommendation John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2013-12-29 16:27 -0500
    Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-29 21:29 -0500
      Re: External HD Recommendation claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) - 2013-12-30 12:36 +0000
        Re: External HD Recommendation TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2013-12-30 08:55 -0600
      Re: External HD Recommendation John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2013-12-30 10:29 -0500
        Re: External HD Recommendation Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2013-12-30 19:56 -0800
          Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-31 19:18 +1100
            Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-31 15:30 +0000
              Re: External HD Recommendation Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-12-31 07:34 -0800
                Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-01 17:51 +1100
                Re: External HD Recommendation TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-01-01 10:14 -0600
                Re: External HD Recommendation Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-01 17:39 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-02 11:54 +1100
                Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-02 01:09 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 20:38 -0700
                Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-02 16:47 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-09 08:13 +1100
                Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-08 21:19 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-02 02:35 +0000
              Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-01 17:47 +1100
                Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-01 02:24 -0500
                Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-02 02:38 +1100
                Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-01 11:55 -0500
                Re: External HD Recommendation J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-01 13:34 -0500
                Re: External HD Recommendation Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-01-01 19:01 -0800
                Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-01 09:45 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-02 02:28 +1100
                Re: External HD Recommendation Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-01 15:36 +0000
                Re: External HD Recommendation nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-01 11:55 -0500
  Re: External HD Recommendation TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2013-12-29 16:00 -0600
    Re: External HD Recommendation Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-29 22:01 +0000
      Re: External HD Recommendation TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2013-12-29 16:19 -0600
        Re: External HD Recommendation Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2013-12-29 14:45 -0800

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