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| From | Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: Security Scare ? |
| Date | 2013-11-25 21:01 -0500 |
| Organization | Ain’t No Organization Here! |
| Message-ID | <l70vdp$su3$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (3 earlier) <l6tdvt$c7e$2@dont-email.me> <1lcwo5l.n6k9hh6idrrpN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <slrnl964hh.lhb.g.kreme@mbp55.local> <1lcwyyd.6gcykaj71km4N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <wwvy54c93u1.fsf@sfere.anjou.terraraq.org.uk> |
On 11-25-2013, 05:24, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> The later version spread via USB sticks (as well as through the
> network). See p11 of
> http://www.langner.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/To-kill-a-centrifuge.pdf
Second paragraph of the executive summary:
"Another section of this paper is dedicated to the discussion of several
popular misconceptions about Stuxnet, most importantly how difficult it
would be to use Stuxnet as a blueprint for cyber-physical attacks
against critical infrastructure of the United States and their allies.
It is pointed out that offensive cyber forces around the world will
certainly learn from history’s first true cyber weapon, and it is
further explained why nation state resources are not required to launch
cyber-physical attacks. It is also explained why conventional infosec
wisdom and deterrence does not sufficiently protect against
Stuxnet-inspired copycat attacks."
--
Wes Groleau
Guidelines for judging others:
1. Don't attribute to malice that which
can be adequately explained by stupidity.
2. Don't attribute to stupidity that which
can be adequately explained by ignorance.
3. Don't attribute to ignorance that which
can be adequately explained by misunderstanding.
4. Don't attribute to misunderstanding that which
can be adequately explained by alcohol.
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