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Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks

From Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks
Date 2013-11-14 11:44 -0800
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On 2013-11-03 19:00:42 +0000, Michelle Steiner said:

> In article <031120131328190591%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
> <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> save as was only added back because people complained.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thus proving that Apple does listen.
>>>> 
>>>> Thus proving Apple should leave well enough alone.
>>> 
>>> but now we have the best of both.
>> 
>> no, because the versioning system is still there, saving changes when
>> you don't want it to.
> 
> That's a different issue from having "Duplicate" or "Save As" in the
> File menu.

In fairness, the removal of Save As was part of the intended switch to a
system where we no longer think about savings explcitly, but rather that
documents are simply there.

It is a bold and interesting idea, which was rolled out with a heap of flaws.

However, to Nospam, if it's "saving changes when you don't want it to", 
you (a) tell it to *ask* whether to keep changes or not.  See 
Prefernces->General for the checkbox.  Check the box.;  And (b) 
otherwise, just ignore it.

As for saving automatically as you go, and "reverting" to the last 
explicitly saved copy - that's not just a convenience, but it's a 
security mechanism.  If the computer gets shut down, or the app quits 
unexpectedly, or whatever, this allows you a recovery of your otherwise 
lost incremental work.  And if you didn't really want that incremental 
work, you can revert.  Which is exactly what happens when you say "no, 
don't keep my changes" if you tell it to ask via that system pref.

It's still got a ways to go, and my opinion is that the auto-lock was 
one of the best things about it -- making us explicitly indicate that 
we mean to change a file -- and *that* was removed when they went from 
10.7 to 10.8 due to folks getting cranky about their files being 
locked.  That one certainly should have been moved to being an option.  
But they're making progress on what looks to be one of the first major 
changes in the way general users (as opposed to, say, geeks like me who 
have used true revision management systems for decades) handle files.

That all said, as glad as I am that they added back Save As..., I think 
it should simply have been added back to the menu directly, not only 
when one hits the Option key.  Obfuscation like that doesn't benefit 
anyone.

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Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-02 15:16 -0700
  Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-02 18:42 -0400
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-02 16:43 -0700
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-03 12:50 +1300
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-02 20:04 -0400
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 05:53 -0500
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-03 13:28 -0400
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 12:14 -0800
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-03 15:17 -0400
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 17:09 -0800
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-11-04 15:15 -0500
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-04 15:26 -0500
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-05 09:12 -0800
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-04 09:28 +1300
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-03 20:56 +0000
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-03 16:25 -0400
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 17:10 -0800
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-03 17:50 -0500
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 17:11 -0800
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 12:11 -0800
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-03 15:17 -0400
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 17:08 -0800
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-03 20:28 -0400
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 21:49 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-04 01:14 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-04 06:46 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-04 13:11 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-05 09:09 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-05 12:58 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-05 10:52 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-11-05 21:37 +0000
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-11-14 09:49 -0800
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-15 09:13 +1300
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-11-14 16:38 -0800
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-15 18:57 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-15 09:45 +0100
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-15 09:42 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-11-15 08:14 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-15 09:23 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-17 12:25 +0100
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-15 12:56 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-16 10:28 +1300
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-15 09:44 +0100
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-16 10:24 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-16 16:37 +1300
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-14 21:33 -0700
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-02 19:57 -0400
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-02 19:46 -0700
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-03 08:00 -0500
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 08:40 -0700
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-03 13:28 -0400
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-03 13:34 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-03 20:59 +0000
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 12:00 -0700
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-03 14:27 -0400
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-11-14 11:44 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-15 09:16 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-11-14 16:38 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-15 19:01 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks rcp27g@gmail.com - 2013-11-15 07:10 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-11-15 08:19 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-15 12:59 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-16 11:40 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-16 10:36 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-15 23:35 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-15 22:31 -0700
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-16 01:23 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@laszlomail.com> - 2013-11-16 08:27 +0100
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-16 08:32 -0700
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-16 18:54 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-16 08:34 -0700
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-20 17:33 +0100
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-16 11:41 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 13:14 +0100
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-16 14:18 +0000
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-16 12:40 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 23:29 +0100
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-17 12:17 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-16 20:15 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2013-11-17 09:10 +0100
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-18 09:36 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-17 15:41 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-16 20:12 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-16 12:30 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-11-16 09:43 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks rcp27g@gmail.com - 2013-11-18 02:13 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-19 09:01 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-15 09:24 -0700
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-14 13:59 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-11-14 11:37 -0800
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 12:00 -0800
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-03 17:40 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-03 16:24 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-06 16:52 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-07 13:31 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks rcp27g@gmail.com - 2013-11-07 06:02 -0800
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-04 18:24 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 21:49 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-04 19:15 +1300
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 11:59 -0800
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 13:43 -0700
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks rcp27g@gmail.com - 2013-11-04 03:00 -0800
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-02 20:02 -0400
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks rcp27g@gmail.com - 2013-11-04 02:57 -0800
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-04 13:11 -0500
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-04 10:24 -0800
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks rcp27g@gmail.com - 2013-11-05 02:24 -0800
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-05 09:59 -0500
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-05 08:59 -0700
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-05 20:01 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-05 20:29 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-06 07:45 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks rcp27g@gmail.com - 2013-11-06 02:20 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-06 07:56 -0500
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-05 08:39 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-05 12:58 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-05 20:02 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-06 16:38 +1300
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-11-05 21:55 +0100
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-05 17:04 -0500
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-06 09:29 +1300
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-11-14 11:47 -0800
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks rcp27g@gmail.com - 2013-11-15 06:57 -0800
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-15 13:01 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 13:25 +0100
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-11-14 09:47 -0800
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-15 09:09 +1300
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-14 14:06 -0800
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-02 16:56 -0700
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-02 17:34 -0700
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 11:59 -0800
  Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-03 12:04 +1300
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-02 16:46 -0700
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-02 19:57 -0400
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-02 17:35 -0700
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-03 13:03 +1300
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-02 21:52 -0700
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-03 18:03 +1300
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-02 22:06 -0700
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 12:09 -0800
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-03 15:26 -0500
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 17:07 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-04 00:41 -0500
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 21:47 -0800
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-04 06:30 -0700
                Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-04 06:38 -0800
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-04 18:26 +1300
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-03 12:28 -0800
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 13:44 -0700
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 12:09 -0800
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-03 12:20 +0100
  Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-02 16:53 -0700
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-02 17:41 -0700
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-11-02 19:49 -0500
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-03 14:22 +1300
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-02 18:34 -0700
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 12:15 -0800
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-03 12:30 -0800
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-04 18:29 +1300
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-02 19:48 -0700
  Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@laszlomail.com> - 2013-11-03 02:00 +0100
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-02 18:13 -0700
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@laszlomail.com> - 2013-11-03 07:59 +0100
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-03 00:05 -0700
          Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-03 08:39 -0700
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-03 07:51 -0800
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-03 08:26 -0800
            Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-04 17:14 +0100
              Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-04 09:11 -0800
  Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-03 01:20 +0000
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-03 12:16 +0100
  Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-03 00:22 -0400
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-02 21:56 -0700
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-03 13:38 -0500
        Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-03 17:51 -0500
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-03 12:14 +0100
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-03 12:08 -0800
  Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks glawrie <gavin.lawrie@2gc.co.uk> - 2013-11-07 15:02 +0000
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-11-07 09:24 -0600
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-07 09:06 -0800
    Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-07 08:27 -0800
      Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-10 16:45 +1300
  Re: Spotlight & Other Changes in Mavericks Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2013-11-08 09:48 -0800

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