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On 9/17/2013 9:55 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Gary Bergstrom<forthprgrmr@gmail.com>  writes:
>> There are two flavors of the TI MSP430 Launchpad.  The $10 value line
>> version and the $13 one with more memory - 8k RAM, 128k flash.
>
> Thanks!  The bigger one is a new and interesting development that I
> didn't know about.  It must have just been released recently, after they
> increased the Value Line launchpad price from $4.30.  Some info is here:
>
> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/MSP430F5529_LaunchPad
>
> It has USB but looks like you need some kind of proprietary libraries in
> order to use it :-(
>
>> As Stephen has noted, the 32bit ARM boards are also quite available
>> and run rings around the 8/16 bit chips.  And the mA/MIPS numbers
>> rival the best as does the price.  Hard to justify sticking with the
>> old other than familiarity and inertia.
>
> The MSP430 seemed like a sweet spot for a while, but now looks unhappily
> squeezed between 8 and 32 bitters.  You're probably right that there's
> not much point any more to large MSP430's, unless you get one with
> special hardware features like FRAM.
>
> 8 bitters still have their place as they are available in small packages
> and are simpler to program, at least using FOSS tools.

There is price too.  8 bit MCUs are still cheaper than 16 bit parts 
which are cheaper than 32 bit parts.  Of course this only matters if you 
are high volume because the difference has gotten pretty small.

-- 

Rick

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tethered Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-07 12:25 -0700
  Re: tethered Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-09-07 10:40 -1000
    Re: tethered Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-07 15:05 -0700
      Re: tethered Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-09-07 17:09 -0500
        Re: tethered Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-07 15:38 -0700
          Re: tethered Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-09-08 02:09 -0500
      Re: tethered Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-09-07 22:21 -1000
        Re: tethered Forth Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2013-09-08 11:39 +0200
        Re: tethered Forth "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2013-09-09 22:42 +1000
        Re: tethered Forth Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2013-09-16 15:16 +0200
          Re: tethered Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-09-16 07:20 -1000
  Re: tethered Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-09-07 16:13 -0500
    Re: tethered Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-07 18:00 -0700
    Re: tethered Forth Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-09-08 11:00 -0700
      Re: tethered Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-09-08 08:55 -1000
        Re: tethered Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-14 15:59 -0700
          Re: tethered Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-09-14 17:56 -1000
            Re: tethered Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-15 22:27 -0700
              Re: tethered Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-09-15 21:18 -1000
                Re: tethered Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-16 22:46 -0700
                Re: tethered Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-09-17 02:45 -0500
              Re: tethered Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-09-16 03:19 -0500
          Re: tethered Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-09-15 12:56 -0500
          Re: tethered Forth Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 19:47 -0700
            Re: tethered Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-09-15 18:49 -1000
              Re: tethered Forth Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 11:58 -0700
    Re: tethered Forth hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-09-10 20:47 -0700
  Re: tethered Forth bob.nash1@gmail.com - 2013-09-10 17:27 -0700
  Re: tethered Forth stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-09-11 12:54 +0000
    Re: tethered Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-14 15:53 -0700
      Re: tethered Forth stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-09-15 17:14 +0000
        Re: tethered Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-15 12:48 -0700
          Re: tethered Forth Gary Bergstrom <forthprgrmr@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 13:46 -0700
            Re: tethered Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-17 18:55 -0700
              Re: tethered Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-09-17 15:51 -1000
              Re: tethered Forth stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-09-18 11:19 +0000
                Re: tethered Forth Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2013-09-18 15:46 +0200
                Re: tethered Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-18 08:43 -0700
              Re: tethered Forth Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-09-18 09:10 -0700
              Re: tethered Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-09-18 20:20 -0400

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