Re: Browser fingerprinting?

From	Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.php
Subject	Re: Browser fingerprinting?
Date	2013-09-13 19:30 -0400
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On 2013-09-13 3:22 AM, Gilles wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 05:04:04 +0200, Fiver <numeralfive@gmail.com>
> wrote:
...


  then I'm just one in a million.
>
> But then, most trolls aren't technically-savvy, and wouldn't even
> think of installing a new browser after being banned.
>
> And even then, after trying Chrome, Firefox, and IE, what else would
> most of them think of doing?

They don't need tech-savvy; all they need are the easily available 
spam/scam et al applications of which there are many. There is very 
little you can do about it at all. In the end you can  end up making it 
as hard on humans as it is for robots and other miscreants who want to 
compromise you for whatever reason.
    IMO solid, as unbreakable as you know how to make it, validation is 
about all you can do. If there are no reasons to have tags in anything, 
then strip the out and throw it away. Same for say hex, where there is 
no reason to expect hex in a text. Stop the data and you stop the abuse. 
But of course there is no 100% solution and I doubt there ever will be. 
EVERY data input can be spoofed, so instead of over-watching for that, 
be pro-active about ANY unexpected data!

If it were easy to do, it'd also be widely publicized and available.

HTH,

Twayne`

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Browser fingerprinting? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-09-12 23:56 +0200
  Re: Browser fingerprinting? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-09-12 22:26 +0000
    Re: Browser fingerprinting? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-09-13 00:38 +0200
      Re: Browser fingerprinting? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-09-13 00:43 +0200
        Re: Browser fingerprinting? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-09-12 23:29 +0000
          Re: Browser fingerprinting? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-09-13 09:23 +0200
            Re: Browser fingerprinting? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-09-13 09:32 -0400
    Re: Browser fingerprinting? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-09-13 19:13 -0400
      Re: Browser fingerprinting? Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-09-14 01:30 +0200
  Re: Browser fingerprinting? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2013-09-12 22:19 +0000
  Re: Browser fingerprinting? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-09-12 20:31 -0400
    Re: Browser fingerprinting? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2013-09-13 06:59 +0200
  Re: Browser fingerprinting? Fiver <numeralfive@gmail.com> - 2013-09-13 05:04 +0200
    Re: Browser fingerprinting? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-09-12 22:49 -0700
      Re: Browser fingerprinting? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-09-13 09:35 -0400
      Re: Browser fingerprinting? Martin Leese <please@see.Web.for.e-mail.INVALID> - 2013-09-13 08:42 -0600
      Re: Browser fingerprinting? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-09-15 20:57 +0200
    Re: Browser fingerprinting? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-09-13 09:22 +0200
      Re: Browser fingerprinting? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-09-13 19:30 -0400
        Re: Browser fingerprinting? Gilles <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-09-15 00:11 +0200
          Re: Browser fingerprinting? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-09-15 16:27 -0400
            Re: Browser fingerprinting? "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-09-15 21:07 -0500
            Re: Browser fingerprinting? Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2013-09-16 11:36 +0200
              Re: Browser fingerprinting? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-09-17 20:02 -0400
                Re: Browser fingerprinting? "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-09-17 22:47 -0500
            Re: Browser fingerprinting? Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-09-16 06:13 -0400
              Re: Browser fingerprinting? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 11:03 +0000
                Re: Browser fingerprinting? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-09-17 20:11 -0400
              Re: Browser fingerprinting? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-09-17 20:06 -0400
                Re: Browser fingerprinting? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-09-18 01:33 +0100
          Re: Browser fingerprinting? Marc van Lieshout <invalid@example.com> - 2013-09-17 22:53 +0200
            Re: Browser fingerprinting? Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-09-17 20:20 -0400
            Re: Browser fingerprinting? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-09-18 05:06 +0000
              Re: Browser fingerprinting? Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2013-09-18 06:09 -0700
                Re: Browser fingerprinting? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2013-09-18 18:24 +0200

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