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Re: Best Apple II Diagnostics Programs

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"Sean Fahey" <a2fan@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Dr. Nick Romano still sells the NIKROM diagnostics, and last I heard, was 
>unhappy they're on Asimov. <shrug>

Well said young fellah...

I wish that Thomas Fenwick, Jim Goodnow II, and Harry Suckow (the 3 orginal 
principals of Aztec C) had archived all their source code, manuals, 
utilities and released versions and put them in a vault somewhere.

Instead, when they drifted apart, and later when Harry needed the space 
after he closed Manx Software (Aztec C) altogether, it all became somehow 
lost forever to us all.

We could debate the evils of capitalism where MicroSoft became a clear 
winner in the PC C then C++ compiler market after the eventual decline then 
demise of Borland International (now somewhat Embarcadero), and the earlier 
decline and demise of other players like George Eberhardt's (Computer 
Innovations) C80. (George has boxes of stuff for me but no way to get it to 
Canada and needs a friendly US drop-off point). There are many paralells on 
the Apple side as well. And much credit goes to the netizens of csa2 for 
preserving what is left.

The domination of Microsoft and focused target markets may have seemed ok to 
us at the time, but in my mind, products like an MS-DOS based (or Win32 
based) cross-compiler for the GS would look pretty good right now to some of 
us. I have ORCA C (Had Think C at one point on my IIci.) but I can still 
dream about what could have been.

We can't change history of course, but some of us are doing what we can to 
prevent history from vanishing, and includes Patrick Kane and the Asimov 
team.

I don't know Dr. Romano, nor is it any of my business what he does with his 
intellectual property from an earlier era. In my own case, what I do for 
these old platforms can be freely used with or without attribution (of 
course I would like to be mentioned but at this point who cares! I am not a 
millionaire yet at 60 so it is unlikely that I will ever be... and sitting 
behind a desk is unhealthy for me now, so the potential for one or two sales 
of old stuff will not immortalize me, or provide my family with enough 
groceries to hold-back my work from still being used by anyone who has the 
desire to do so).

So I will now join you... <shrug>

And commend all others to unselfishly engage in a group shrug...

Having said that, for major works like Ciderpress and AppleWin, I think that 
the fellahs who have contributed are brilliant and should enjoy attribution 
for their efforts and not have others take credit for their unselfish work 
and community service.

Bill

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              Re: Best Apple II Diagnostics Programs "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2013-07-26 22:41 -0500
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                Re: Best Apple II Diagnostics Programs "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2013-07-26 22:55 -0500
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                Re: Best Apple II Diagnostics Programs Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2013-07-29 06:12 -0700
                Re: Best Apple II Diagnostics Programs "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2013-07-29 09:13 -0500
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