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Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array?

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On 08/05/2013 18:17, lipska the kat allegedly wrote:
> On 08/05/13 16:32, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
>> On 08/05/2013 15:57, lipska the kat allegedly wrote:
>>> On 08/05/13 14:19, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
>>>> On 08/05/2013 10:06, lipska the kat allegedly wrote:
>>>>>         Byte[][] bytes = new Byte[width][height];
>>>>
>>>> Lipska, mind the difference between Byte and byte. That code above is
>>>> extremely bad advice.
>>>
>>> Why? it's common practice these days to eschew primitives and use
>>> (autoboxing) classes, it's more consistent in OO code and, as I
>>> understand things, post autoboxing, the following two lines are
>>> logically equivalent.
>>>
>>> 1. Byte[][] bytes = new Byte[width][height];
>>> 2. byte[][] bytes = new byte[width][length]
> 
> typo notwithstanding oops :-(
> 
>>> The following is perfectly legal given either of the above
>>>
>>> byte b = 127;
>>> bytes[0][0] = b;
>>> Byte c = 126;
>>> bytes[0][1] = c;
>>> Byte d = bytes[0][0];
>>> byte e = bytes[0][1];
>>>
>>> I would of course be interested to know what your objection is.
>>
>> Simple: "byte[]" is not a primitive type.
> 
> I wasn't aware that I said it was

When I called out your using a Byte[] rather than byte[] in your example
code, you defended it on the grounds of an alleged "common practice" to
use (boxed) reference types instead of primitive types. Thereby, you
have implied that byte[] was a primitive type; otherwise your whole
argument would have been a non sequitur.

But byte[] is not a primitive type, and hence your argument,
irrespectively of its merits (see below), does not apply.

>> "byte" is a primitive type.
>> "byte[]" is a reference type.
> 
> no argument there but what is your *objection* to
> 
> Byte[][] bytes = new Byte[width][height];
> 
> in the context of the OPs question?

Objection? It's bullcrap. Firstly, no I/O library uses Byte[]. Secondly,
as Daniel has indicated, the only reason to use Byte[] over byte[] would
be to store null references. Which the OP doesn't need, as they have
actual data. And lastly, it's dangerous because it furthers the very
thing that, I reckon, lead you to use it in the first place: the
confusion induced by autoboxing.

General OO matters set aside, in the context of Java, autoboxing is a
poison. The meagre convenience it provides is largely offset by the
confusion, or lack of clarity, it causes in the minds of Java
programmers, especially aspirant Java programmers. I've witnessed its
nefarious effects countless times in my colleagues' code. A for/each
loop is exactly the same thing as a normal for loop with an iterator.
But, for better or for worse, in Java, a boxed reference type and a
primitive type are two completely different things. Autoboxing induces
the thought that they're not. That's why it's poison.

-- 
DF.

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How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? sout saret <saretmis097@gmail.com> - 2013-05-07 23:30 -0700
  Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 09:06 +0100
    Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-05-08 12:29 +0200
      Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 13:28 +0100
    Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-08 15:19 +0200
      Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 14:57 +0100
        Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-05-08 08:22 -0700
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 17:03 +0100
            Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-05-08 13:44 -0700
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 17:48 +0100
            Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-08 21:10 -0400
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-08 12:52 -0400
        Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-08 17:32 +0200
          Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 17:17 +0100
            Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-08 18:46 +0200
              Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 18:25 +0100
                Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-08 23:24 +0200
        Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2013-05-08 11:46 -0500
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                Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-09 04:09 +0200
                Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-09 04:09 +0200
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                Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-05-10 09:46 -0700
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                Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-05-10 11:00 -0700
                Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-10 23:42 +0200
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    Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-08 12:43 -0400
      Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 18:45 +0100
  Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-08 11:18 -0400
  Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2013-05-08 11:52 -0500
    Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 18:40 +0100
      Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2013-05-08 13:54 -0500
        Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-08 20:43 +0100
        Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-11 09:28 +0100
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            Re: How to convert image into Hex 2 Dimensional Array? lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-11 15:00 +0100
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