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Re: The extraordinary popular delusion of relativity and the madness of crowds.

From	Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: The extraordinary popular delusion of relativity and the madness of crowds.
Date	2023-09-03 21:58 +1000
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On 26-Aug-23 1:23 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 3:14:50 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
>> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 2:10:05 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>>> On 8/25/2023 4:56 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Logically, since relativists admit he had the same formulas, then he derived an ether wind formula without an ether. Ridiculous.
>>> That's really, really stupid, even for you. If he derived a formula
>>> without an ether, there's no ether wind in it, either.
>>>
>>> You may as well be discussing windstorms on the moon.
>> Sometimes I think people like Laurence just live in some sort of
>> different "logic space". It seems a bit like the TDS except this
>> is revolving around the person of Einstein instead. And it's
>> equally random: in the first case one would think that by any
>> sane and honest measure Dick Cheney and George W. Bush would
>> be much more vilified for their war crimes by intellectuals, and
>> in the second (Einstein) case one would think that it would be
>> the fathers of _quantum mechanics_ who would be much more
>> vilified for their destruction of certain type of certainty and rules.
>> But no, in both cases it's a person selected on the basis
>> of... what exactly? It's just bizarre but I guess it's practically by
>> definition with all derangements: there is no rhyme or reason to
>> them, it's more like hysteria or hypnosis or something.
>>
>> -- 
>> Jan
> It is irrelevant that it is Einstein. It is relevant it is still today's relativity equations that include the ether wind equation regardless of your empty denials.

If Einstein had come up with the equations first, what would you be 
saying about Lorentz's work? That he was putting an ether wind where one 
didn't belong?

Sylvia.

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Re: The extraordinary popular delusion of relativity and the madness of crowds. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 20:56 -0700
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