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Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses

From Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses
Date 2013-03-25 06:02 -0700
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <kiphri$tch$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References <dab1f650-6617-41d9-b9e2-dd1afa9d5eb4@googlegroups.com> <kipfqa$ib5$1@dont-email.me> <timstreater-E080F6.12421325032013@news.individual.net>

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On 3/25/2013 5:42 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <kipfqa$ib5$1@dont-email.me>,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> You can't track visitors by IP.  A visitor's IP can change at any
>> time, and it is very possible to have multiple visitors from the same
>> IP address (i.e. even at my home we have 5 computers but only 1 IP
>> address).  An IP is valid for one conversation (i.e. a page request
>> with all of it's images) but nothing more.
>
> 1) In both instances above you mean "e.g." and not "i.e."

Who Cares?

>
> 2) In the above, "its" does not need an apostrophe (are you a grocer?)

Who Cares?

>
> 3) A user's IP address is typically allocated when they reboot their
> ADSL router (e.g. mine has been up for 128 days), and will remain
> unchanged for that duration. Unless, that is, they asked their ISP for a
> static IP address in which case it won't change at all.

I do not use DSL so when does mine change?

>
> 4) So even with a dynamic IP address, to say that it's valid for one
> page request only is complete nonsense.

Can you quote where he said "it's valid for one page request only"?

Everything JS said is valid as a general across the board statement and 
advice.

I have seen code (js) even try to grab browser fingerprint details 
combined with IP and that can be spoofed.

What is your suggestion TS to the OPs' question?

Scotty

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how to save the visitors ip addresses nag <visitnag@gmail.com> - 2013-03-25 01:44 -0700
  Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses "Olaf S." <thesys@gmx.de> - 2013-03-25 12:11 +0100
  Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Salvatore <sal@yojimbo.hack.invalid> - 2013-03-25 11:13 +0000
    Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses nag <visitnag@gmail.com> - 2013-03-25 04:36 -0700
  Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-03-25 08:28 -0400
    Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-25 12:42 +0000
      Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2013-03-25 06:02 -0700
        Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-03-25 13:09 +0000
          Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-03-25 09:26 -0400
          Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2013-03-25 09:55 -0700
            Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-03-26 01:44 +0000
        Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-25 13:34 +0000
          Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-03-25 14:54 +0000
            Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-03-25 13:24 -0400
          Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2013-03-25 10:03 -0700
            Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-03-26 01:57 +0000
        Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-03-25 13:25 -0400
        Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-25 19:15 +0100
      Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-03-25 09:22 -0400
      Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2013-03-27 01:29 -0400
  Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses richard <noreply@example.com> - 2013-03-25 19:39 -0400
    Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2013-03-26 00:21 +0000
      Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-03-25 20:55 -0400
      Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Paul Herber <paul@pherber.com> - 2013-03-26 01:01 +0000
        Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-03-26 02:10 +0000
      Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-03-26 02:01 +0000
        Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2013-03-26 03:10 +0000
          Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-03-26 15:18 +0000
      Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Evan Platt <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com.invalid> - 2013-03-25 22:39 -0700
    Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Evan Platt <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com.invalid> - 2013-03-25 18:31 -0700
      Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-03-25 21:47 -0400
        Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Evan Platt <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com.invalid> - 2013-03-25 19:34 -0700
          Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-03-25 23:27 -0400
            Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-26 09:10 +0000
              Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-03-26 06:16 -0400
              Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-03-26 11:42 +0100
                Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-03-26 11:47 +0000
          Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-03-25 23:38 -0400
            Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Evan Platt <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com.invalid> - 2013-03-25 21:13 -0700
              Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-03-26 06:16 -0400
          Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-03-26 15:10 +0000
    Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-03-26 01:43 +0000

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