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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames |
| Date | 2023-06-17 22:39 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <kf5nreFjq31U2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 17-June-23 5:55 am, Ken Seto wrote: > On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 8:43:37 PM UTC-4, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: >> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 3:10:53 PM UTC-7, Ken Seto wrote: >>> 1. The natural law of physics say speed of anything (including light)) is observer dependent. >>> >>> 2. There is no universal constant unit of time amount of time (inclufimg a clock >>> second). That means no constant c. >>> 1 second in A's frame = 1/gamma seconds in B;s frame. >>> OR >>> 1 second in A's frame = gamma seconds in B;s frame. >>> >>> 3. Replace "c" in every SR equation with: >>> c'= gamma(measured in coming wavelength)(measured in coming >>> frequency) >>> OR >>> c'= 1/gamma(measured in coming wavelength)(measured in coming >>> frequency) >> What do you mean by observer-dependent? In my opinion, physics indicates that the speed of light shares the velocity of the source, as in ballistics. > > let say the following: > There is a light source Xo. > Three observers A, B and D are rushing toward Xo at different speeds. > Stand physics says that each of the observers will measure the speed of light from Xo to be c. > I disagree. > Einstein forced each of them to measure the speed of light from Xo to be "c" by inventing time dilation and length contraction..I disagree, There is no absolute time dilation and no physical length contraction, He did neither of those things. He asked what the consequences would be if it were the case that the speed of light were the same for all observers, as the experimental evidence indicated. Sylvia.
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Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-06-14 15:10 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-06-14 15:14 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-06-14 16:27 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-14 17:41 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-06-14 21:45 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-06-15 10:43 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-15 12:11 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 21:08 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-14 22:21 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-14 17:43 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-14 18:15 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-06-14 18:23 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-14 20:20 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-06-14 22:39 -0500
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-14 20:59 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-06-15 06:00 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-06-17 22:37 +1000
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Wyouman Ophoven <eowp@ovenvnyh.ho> - 2023-06-17 16:42 +0000
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-14 21:00 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-06-15 06:04 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-15 08:34 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-14 21:40 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 12:55 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-06-17 22:39 +1000
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 07:41 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Braden Peerenboom <bemo@nrrrenon.rm> - 2023-06-17 16:13 +0000
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-17 08:12 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-06-17 17:16 +0200
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-17 19:31 -0400
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-17 16:41 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 17:10 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 03:47 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 15:38 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-18 01:04 -0400
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Roosevelt Rooiakker <orts@aesrorov.oo> - 2023-06-20 22:17 +0000
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Carlos L <asjcharles@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 16:42 -0700
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-17 08:11 -0400
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Clerence Langbroek <gbee@ncaeneng.al> - 2023-06-17 12:20 +0000
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-06-18 14:57 +1000
Re: Why the speed of light cannot be constant in all frames Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-06-22 09:18 -0500
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