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Re: New programming language for databases

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Robert Klemme wrote:

> On 12/13/2012 10:02 AM, Arthur Ward wrote:
>
>> Respect is to show deference, esteem or honor.  If none of those have
>> been earned,  or they've been lost, showing respect is feigning it.
>
> There we disagree: there are different kinds of respect, one that can be 
> earned and one that everybody deserves because of his humanity.  You 
> talk about respect not earned but it seems to me you deny the other form 
> as well.

I am sure you have something nice in mind when you use the word respect
but you are using your own definition of it.  The only real meaning of
any word is its shared meaning. I can't productively engage you if you
give unconventional meanings to words. 

>> Pretending.  Lying.
>
> That is just one way of looking at it.  By treating someone with respect 
> whom one does not like one acknowledges that he is human as well.  No 
> sympathy needs to be faked for that.  

You are carrying on like I was wishing him dead.  I said he was a
fucking imbecile and lazy.  If he'd kept his stupid enthusiasms to
himself I'd have been as civil as you like.

> Also, politeness and honesty are 
> not exclusive.  I can be polite and offer honest disagreement at the 
> same time.

Irrelevant, although true. (You and Gene same to have the same logical
tic.)

>>>       Ah, but if you are trying to get people to see that they might be
>>> mistaken, your approach is very unlikely to work.
>>
>> I am under no illusion that I will ever help the OP.  I am heckling.
>> All I want to do is raise awareness so that perhaps one or two other
>> people wonder why anyone would get so bent out of shape about EAV and
>> look into it a bit more carefully. I am trying to deny the OP a free
>> ride here.
>
> I believe by now attention has been drawn to a completely different 
> subject - which might or might not help your goal.

Yeah, but I think we're both getting a lot out of this new quarrel.  I
know I am.

>> Sadly I wonder if both you and Robert think I am a shit.
>
> If you consider that option you must be assuming that we do that based 
> on some of your prior communication.  

Nope, it's a pure wild-ass conjecture, consistent with the facts
available but otherwise baseless.  I mention it only to show the
true effect of admitting your show of courtesy is mere formula.

> Since you entered this discussion 
> about style where you elaborate your good intentions it must be 
> important for you not to be viewed as a "shit".  

Not in the least.  Valid arguments by even the vilest shits are still
valid.

> What I do not 
> understand: why do you employ a style of communication of which you 
> assume that it has potential to harm your reputation?

For brevity and impact.  To figuratively smack the OP up side the head. 
To hold his ideas up to ridicule.  For color.  And because I
talk like that.  Unlike the OP I don't crave the esteem of anyone here.

Art 
 

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New programming language for databases sergei.sheinin@gmail.com - 2012-11-25 06:30 -0800
  Re: New programming language for databases Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-11-26 23:24 +0100
    Re: New programming language for databases sergei.sheinin@gmail.com - 2012-11-26 19:07 -0800
      Re: New programming language for databases Harry Tuttle <OTPXDAJCSJVU@spammotel.com> - 2012-11-27 10:31 +0100
        Re: New programming language for databases sergei.sheinin@gmail.com - 2012-11-27 03:04 -0800
          Re: New programming language for databases Arthur Ward <art.ward@noreply.xx> - 2012-11-27 14:29 +0000
            Re: New programming language for databases sergei.sheinin@gmail.com - 2012-11-27 07:45 -0800
              Re: New programming language for databases Arthur Ward <art.ward@noreply.xx> - 2012-11-27 17:34 +0000
            Re: New programming language for databases Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-12-02 13:51 +0100
              Re: New programming language for databases Arthur Ward <art.ward@noreply.xx> - 2012-12-02 13:51 +0000
                Re: New programming language for databases Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-12-08 10:49 +0100
                Re: New programming language for databases Arthur Ward <art.ward@noreply.xx> - 2012-12-08 11:49 +0000
                Re: New programming language for databases Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-12-12 17:42 -0800
                Re: New programming language for databases Arthur Ward <art.ward@noreply.xx> - 2012-12-13 09:02 +0000
                Re: New programming language for databases Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2012-12-13 08:30 -0800
                Re: New programming language for databases Arthur Ward <art.ward@noreply.xx> - 2012-12-13 17:03 +0000
                Re: New programming language for databases Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-12-14 07:56 +0100
                Re: New programming language for databases Arthur Ward <art.ward@noreply.xx> - 2012-12-15 09:36 +0000
  Re: New programming language for databases emilbarton <emilbarton@whynot.com> - 2012-12-01 11:10 +0000
    Re: New programming language for databases Arthur Ward <art.ward@noreply.xx> - 2012-12-02 13:49 +0000
      Re: New programming language for databases emilbarton <emilbarton@whynot.com> - 2012-12-02 22:09 +0000
        Re: New programming language for databases Arthur Ward <art.ward@noreply.xx> - 2012-12-03 08:54 +0000
  Re: New programming language for databases sergei.sheinin@gmail.com - 2012-12-11 01:30 -0800
    Re: New programming language for databases Arthur Ward <art.ward@noreply.xx> - 2012-12-11 10:45 +0000
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