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Re: [CM] Soviet PCs

From	Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: [CM] Soviet PCs
Date	2015-10-19 00:15 +0200
Organization	Me, Myself and I
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In article <b2b7ebe3-88cf-4a4e-944c-1fa875b19b02@googlegroups.com>,
Quadibloc  <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 5:04:22 AM UTC-6, Greymaus wrote:
>
>> IMHO, Apple ][ would suffice for most peoples purposes still, Again, I 
>> suppose that the Internet would be out (which would stop people
>> surfing for porn)
>
>Well, E-mail and the Web _are_ most people's purposes, so that lets the Apple 
>][ out right there.
>
>In fact, though, if one wants a minimal computer to satisfy most people's 
>purposes, it should _at least_ be able to do word processing. So one would have 
>to move up to the Apple //e, which, unlike the Apple ][, at least had a 
>keyboard with *lower case* on it.
>
>But I think we would have to hold out for a *modern* computer. Say an early 
>386-based PC clone, running DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1?
>
>But if you want to watch videos on your computer, you will need to move even 
>further into the modern era - like a Pentium II with Windows 98. Now *that* _can_ do just
>about anything today's computers can do.
>
>John Savard

I have had lots of experience using the more frugal intel and arm-based computers
for almost everyting.

For a tiny distro of *n*x running some minimal developer stuff the
practial minimum is a few hundred megabytes of RAM and ditto storage, 
and a 200Mhz processor. At least for me. To make it self-hosting add
a usb drive of 16G and 512M ram. This is with a tiny GUI (Not X, Qt)
and compilers and tools. The 200Mhz got to be a straightjacket, I was
vey happy when I could make the compilers on a 2Ghz system generate
the code.

To run anything like a modern desktop you need around 8G of storage, 
2G of RAM and 1Ghz of processing power, at the very least. Having fast
swap space can help with some of the RAM. 1G is too small for anything
Linux-X-desktop-browser-wp-spreadsheet like.

-- mrr

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[CM] Soviet PCs RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-10-17 05:50 +0000
  Re: [CM] Soviet PCs philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-10-17 10:22 -0500
  Re: [CM] Soviet PCs Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-10-17 23:00 -0300
    Re: [CM] Soviet PCs Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-17 21:14 -0700
      Re: [CM] Soviet PCs hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-14 19:17 -0800
    Re: [CM] Soviet PCs Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-18 11:04 +0000
      Re: [CM] Soviet PCs Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-18 11:58 -0700
        Re: [CM] Soviet PCs Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-19 00:15 +0200
          Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Roberto Waltman <usenet@rwaltman.com> - 2016-02-14 16:37 -0500
            Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 16:54 -0500
              Re: Early Unixes requirements. (Was: Soviet PCs) philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-02-14 17:58 -0600
              Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-15 21:27 +0000
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-15 17:41 -0500
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-15 23:08 +0000
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-16 00:20 +0100
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-16 04:46 -0800
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-16 15:15 +0100
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-17 11:42 -0800
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-17 23:24 +0100
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-18 10:42 +0000
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-16 08:14 +0000
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-16 11:42 +0000
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-16 17:01 +0000
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-17 01:32 +0000
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-15 18:23 -0600
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-16 00:50 +0000
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-16 15:09 -0600
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 03:42 +0000
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-17 14:11 +0000
              Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2016-02-15 17:15 -0600
            Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-14 19:40 -0800
              Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-14 19:45 -0800
              Re: Early Unixes requirements. (Was: Soviet PCs) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-15 01:12 -0600
                Re: Early Unixes requirements. (Was: Soviet PCs) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-15 06:09 -0800
                Re: Early Unixes requirements. (Was: Soviet PCs) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-15 13:37 -0600
                Re: Early Unixes requirements. (Was: Soviet PCs) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-15 16:16 -0500
                Re: Early Unixes requirements. (Was: Soviet PCs) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 18:52 -0700
                Re: Early Unixes requirements. (Was: Soviet PCs) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-16 22:18 -0500
              Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-15 09:43 +0000
              Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2016-02-15 15:27 -0500
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-16 09:14 +0000
              Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-18 20:30 -0800
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-19 19:48 +0000
                Re: Early Unixes requirements. (Was: Soviet PCs) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 12:56 -0700
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-19 20:15 -0600
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-19 20:24 -0600
                Re: Early Unixes requirements. Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-19 20:34 -0800
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-20 19:56 +0000
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-20 22:10 +0000
                Re: Early Unixes requirements.  (Was: Soviet PCs) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-20 16:12 -0600
        Re: [CM] Soviet PCs Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-18 21:56 -0400
          Re: [CM] Soviet PCs Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-19 07:07 +0000
            Re: [CM] Soviet PCs Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-19 11:38 -0400
  Re: [CM] Soviet PCs Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> - 2015-10-18 11:34 -0500
  Re: [CM] Soviet PCs mentificium@gmail.com - 2015-10-18 11:32 -0700

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