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| From | Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.cars, aus.science |
| Subject | Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire |
| Date | 2023-03-09 11:08 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <k6smbaF8tknU7@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <3e8c286b04cef3ec361ccd20b79600ff@dizum.com> <k6qatmFstbeU1@mid.individual.net> <k6qjijFu1eqU3@mid.individual.net> <k6sf09F7r3qU5@mid.individual.net> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 9/3/2023 9:02 am, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 8/03/2023 4:08 pm, Daryl wrote: >> On 8/3/2023 1:40 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 8/03/2023 1:02 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote: >>>> I bet Elon has a diesel pickup with long-range tanks to >>>> escape the apocalyse. >>>> >>> >>> **I've been thinking about that. Let's say the zombie apocalypse >>> happens. No more refined oil. Petrol lasts about 1 year in a sealed >>> container. I am uncertain, but I guess Diesel will last a bit longer. >>> Maybe 2 years. >> >> Depends on how its stored, diesel needs to be sealed without any air >> and then it will last a very long time, I've also used petrol that was >> 5yrs old without a problem but its variable. >> >> A battery pack will last a lot longer. Prolly 20+ years. >> >> A rather wild guess, batteries can last a long time if stored >> correctly but 10yrs is a more realistic guess. > > **Which is WAY longer than oil. > >> >>> A survivalist will be able to charge his Tesle via his Solar PV >>> array, whilst the fossil fueled vehicles become useless. >>> >> >> Certainly possible to charge an EV from solar but EV's need lots and >> lots of power so it could take a very long time to fully charge unless >> you have a very big solar system. >> The sort of portable solar panels that a survivalist could carry in a >> vehicle would take weeks to charge an EV. >> >> > > **When China blockades Australian sea lanes, we will have no oil. What > will we run our cars on? > If we are forced to use electric cars most of the power will have to come from coal or gas since almost all solar panels are made in China which is rather ironic. If there is a positive to electric cars its that we won't need to rely on anyone else for fuel supplies, their overall environmental benefits are dubious at best and their cost is partly to blame for our inflation problem. I'm starting to think that EV's are the biggest con job in history, Govts around the world have been conned into believing that EV's are the only solution to reducing emissions when there are very viable alternatives that are close to production ready. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxtxZY45RMM -- Daryl
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a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2023-03-08 03:02 +0100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-08 13:40 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-08 15:22 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2023-03-08 16:00 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-03-08 17:47 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 07:50 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 08:11 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 08:14 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2023-03-09 07:21 +1000
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 08:41 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 09:37 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 09:43 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 12:17 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 14:20 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 15:48 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-03-09 23:30 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2023-03-08 20:18 -0800
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 10:56 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 11:18 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 12:40 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 13:30 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 15:02 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 17:01 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2023-03-08 20:06 -0800
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 09:34 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 09:33 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 09:47 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 12:01 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 14:07 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 15:59 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2023-03-09 16:27 +1000
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 20:19 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 22:59 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-10 12:42 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-10 13:53 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-10 14:32 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 10:48 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire alvey <Patty.O.Furniture@Coast.org> - 2023-03-08 23:58 +0000
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-03-09 12:46 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-08 16:08 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2023-03-07 22:11 -0800
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-08 20:12 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2023-03-08 19:40 +1000
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 09:02 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 11:08 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 11:23 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 12:15 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 13:58 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 12:18 +1100
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