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| From | no.top.post@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.networking, comp.mail.sendmail |
| Subject | Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? |
| Date | 2012-10-15 20:40 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <k5hsbd$5su$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <k5ha6d$4bj$4@dont-email.me> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
In article <k5ha6d$4bj$4@dont-email.me>, J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> wrote: > On Thursday, October 11th, 2012, at 23:53:53h +0100, > Chris Davies explained: > > David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> wrote: >> Any self-respecting ISP will block all outgoing SMTP traffic that is not >> going directly to its own email relays [...] Does that mean the ISP can determine if a clients 'stream' is going to: http or NTTP or <email> ? But then these detestible(sp) web-based mails would 'escape'? I was pleased, that based on feedback from this thread, I got `mutt` to read my gmail, which is even better than `lynx` or `links`. But now I realise that to SEND mutt, just uses `sendmail`. So I'm back where I started. And I'm not convinced that if I sweat-blood to get sendmail: smart-host working, it will be able to fake my "From: " field to make the mail-lists believe that I'm sending from the orininal ISP1. What slays me, is that whereas pop & smtp to the ISP are so trivial, that you can just write down the steps from the RFC, and interactively paste them as a telnet session. `sendmail` seems to be as absurd as the-english-language. Why doesn't somebody who claims to understand it, do a hello-world/successive-refinment evolutionary test-sequence/ tutorial. eg:-- * send from root to non-root-user on the same PC. * send from non-root-user to root user on the same PC. I tried that and traced that my text had gone to /var/*, but couldn't 'pop' it, to get a full 'cycle'. * CONFIRM receipt .... * send from root to ISP port 25 * send from non-root-user to ISP port xyz <-probe * etc. With a list of confirmatory traces for each stage. What RFC should I fetch? ==TIA.
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Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-11 17:52 +0000
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? David Hough <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2012-10-11 20:28 +0100
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2012-10-11 22:17 +0200
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-10-11 23:53 +0100
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2012-10-12 13:12 +1100
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-12 09:54 +0000
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2012-10-13 00:42 +1100
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? David Hough <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2012-10-12 15:47 +0100
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-10-12 10:59 +0200
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-10-15 15:30 +0000
Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-15 20:40 +0000
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-10-15 23:32 +0100
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-10-16 01:36 +0000
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? "Robert Blair" <nobody@nowhere.not> - 2012-10-12 01:13 -0500
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-10-12 11:02 +0200
Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-13 04:49 +0000
Re: Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? "Robert Blair" <nobody@nowhere.not> - 2012-10-13 01:51 -0500
Re (3): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-14 08:10 +0000
Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-13 08:48 +0000
Re (3): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-14 18:59 +0000
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Joe Zeff <the.guy.with.the.sideburns@lasfs.info> - 2012-10-12 07:22 +0000
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? David Hough <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2012-10-12 15:58 +0100
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-12 09:54 +0000
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-10-11 21:21 +0100
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-12 09:54 +0000
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-10-12 22:40 +0100
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-14 08:10 +0000
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Bob Hauck <postmaster@avalanche.org> - 2012-10-14 08:38 -0400
Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-14 18:36 +0000
Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-10-14 14:25 +0100
Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-14 18:37 +0000
Re: Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-10-14 23:44 +0100
Re (3+): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-15 11:46 +0000
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