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Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly?

From no.top.post@gmail.com
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.networking, comp.mail.sendmail
Subject Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly?
Date 2012-10-12 09:54 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <k58pco$ghs$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References <k57ua5$l2f$1@dont-email.me>

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In article <k57ua5$l2f$1@dont-email.me>, terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote: 

> On 12/10/12 09:53, Chris Davies wrote:
> > David Brown<david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no>  wrote:
> >> Any self-respecting ISP will block all outgoing SMTP traffic that is not
> >> going directly to its own email relays [...]
> >
> > That's very much the exception here in the UK. (Unfortunately.)
> 
> Interesting. Regional effect? After running the incoming address through 
> zen.spamhaus which blocks 99% and thus saves me download fees, the 
> majority. for me, of "spam" now comes through Asian language IPs (cn & 
> jp). I do have B, C & D(IP) blocks on Korean as well.
> 
 ! Yes, currently I'm getting a wave from *.jp
 Last time/S there were some international games on, a spam-wave
 also came from the far east. Strange?
> 
> 
> Getting back to the point about ISPs. Apart from briefly having my 
> current ISP provide DNS, I have never had any ISP require me to use 
> their mail server or blocked releveant ports. Caveat, I will not use one 
> that does.
> 
> Sadly, it is an issue of technical skills within the ISP. Dealng with 
> DNS issues was bad enough, but I'm not lining up to learn the 
> configuration of whatever mail server they think is flavour of the month 
> and continually fixing their configuration.
> 
 That's exactly my view!
> 
> Caveat, you probably can afford a better class is ISP if you are 
> employed in a large company rather than running your own show.
> 
 No. If you follow 'bling' you get to M$. And then you're really
 screwed re. INDEPENDANCE.


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Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-11 17:52 +0000
  Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? David Hough <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2012-10-11 20:28 +0100
    Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2012-10-11 22:17 +0200
      Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-10-11 23:53 +0100
        Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2012-10-12 13:12 +1100
          Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-12 09:54 +0000
            Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2012-10-13 00:42 +1100
          Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? David Hough <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2012-10-12 15:47 +0100
        Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-10-12 10:59 +0200
        Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-10-15 15:30 +0000
          Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-15 20:40 +0000
          Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-10-15 23:32 +0100
            Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-10-16 01:36 +0000
      Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? "Robert Blair" <nobody@nowhere.not> - 2012-10-12 01:13 -0500
        Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-10-12 11:02 +0200
        Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-13 04:49 +0000
          Re: Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? "Robert Blair" <nobody@nowhere.not> - 2012-10-13 01:51 -0500
            Re (3): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-14 08:10 +0000
        Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-13 08:48 +0000
        Re (3): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-14 18:59 +0000
      Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Joe Zeff <the.guy.with.the.sideburns@lasfs.info> - 2012-10-12 07:22 +0000
      Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? David Hough <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2012-10-12 15:58 +0100
    Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-12 09:54 +0000
  Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-10-11 21:21 +0100
    Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-12 09:54 +0000
      Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-10-12 22:40 +0100
        Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-14 08:10 +0000
          Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Bob Hauck <postmaster@avalanche.org> - 2012-10-14 08:38 -0400
            Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-14 18:36 +0000
          Re: Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-10-14 14:25 +0100
            Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-14 18:37 +0000
              Re: Re (2): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-10-14 23:44 +0100
                Re (3+): Dud: ISP so send mail directly? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-10-15 11:46 +0000

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