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Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data?

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On 6/15/2012 11:20 AM, Chris Davies wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net>  wrote:
>> I read it.  The thing you miss is the hacker doesn't need to decode the
>> encrypted data in the cookie.  All he needs to do is send it - just like
>> the original client would.
>
> You're (still?) missing my differentiator between this and a session
> cookie.
>
>
>> He won't have the password - but he doesn't need it.
>
> It wasn't about having a password (implicit with the cookie or otherwise),
> it was having access to the data stored directly in the cookie itself.
>
> Chris

It would help if you were to quote the relevant comments.  You said:

"2. If you encrypt the data into the cookie using a secret known only to
the website then at least someone has to go to the bother of trying to
brute force the data string, but they have as much time as they like to
do so. Password security."

As I stated - this is not correct.  No one needs to "brute force the 
data string" to get logged in - all they have to do is send the cookie.

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Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Simon <bad@example.com> - 2012-06-14 10:35 +0200
  Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-06-14 07:46 -0400
  Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-06-14 13:52 +0100
    Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-06-14 12:30 -0400
      Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-06-15 08:46 +0100
        Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-06-15 07:04 -0400
          Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-06-15 16:20 +0100
            Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-06-15 16:25 -0400
              Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-06-18 19:02 +0100
                Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-06-18 15:13 -0400
                Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-06-18 23:12 +0100
                Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-06-18 21:30 -0400
                Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2012-06-19 08:37 +0200
  Re: Best practice, (secure), to save session data? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2012-06-15 22:44 +0200

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