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Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS

From Jan Andres <J@nAndr.es>
Newsgroups alt.politics.org.nsa, sci.math, alt.security.pgp, sci.physics, comp.security.pgp.discuss
Subject Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS
Date 2012-04-19 13:10 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <jmp2rm$dq7$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <v4too7hiskkerc968pbj627h38jeip527f@4ax.com> <212286c1-92ba-493a-8a70-893995de8c3e@n19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> <649f99d3404304f901f3c4713748ea89@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> <66733cb3-e0e4-49cd-bf04-79c1ed3c16fc@i18g2000vbx.googlegroups.com> <16d17e4f-16f9-4820-a26a-0810500cf56b@n22g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>

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On 2012-04-19, Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 5:47 am, Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybrea...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 18, 10:43 pm, Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybrea...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
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>> > On Apr 16, 4:28 pm, Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybrea...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Apr 16, 3:50 pm, quasi <qu...@null.set> wrote:
>> > > > Pubkeybreaker wrote:
>> > > > >quasi wrote:
>> > > > >> Pubkeybreaker wrote:
>>
>> > > > >> >All this troll did was divide out some (or all) of these
>> > > > >> >known PRIME factors to produce a composite cofactor.
>>
>> > > > >> So barker fooled me again! Barker 3, quasi 0.
>>
>> > > > >> He has some ideas about digit patterns, possibly valid,
>> > > > >> perhaps interesting, but so far he hasn't shown any
>> > > > >> actually new factorizations.
>>
>> > > > >> As far as trolls go, he's a pretty sneaky one.
>>
>> > > > >This business about "digit patterns" has some very limited
>> > > > >legitimacy. If one tries to put together a factoring
>> > > > >algorithm based on "reversing the multiplication process"
>> > > > >(which is what looking at digit patterns amounts to), one
>> > > > >gets a legitimate way of factoring. The difficulty is that
>> > > > >it leads to a set of simultaneous diophantine equations
>> > > > >(in O(log N)) variables. Solving this problem is known (see
>> > > > >Garey & Johnson) to be NP-Complete.
>>
>> > > > Challenge to barker:
>>
>> > > > Produce a partial factorization of some composite repunit
>> > > > (in a base of your choice) for which the factorization is
>> > > > unpublished and for which it would be infeasible to obtain
>> > > > that factorization current factoring algorithms.
>>
>> > > > Short of that, post a simple example (with much smaller
>> > > > numbers) to illustrate how the anomalous digit patterns for
>> > > > repunits (definitely an interesting phenomenon) can be used
>> > > > to algorithmically factor some repunit.
>>
>> > > I predict:   He can't and won't.  He is a fraud.
>>
>> > Having written all that, I take it all back.  I've had email
>> > from barker, and he provided enough of one of the 107 digit
>> > long factors of R281 for me to know he is legit. Judging by
>> > where he sent the email from, he could work for the NSA, and
>> > this explains a lot. When they factorize something, they
>> > don't usually publish it.
>>
>> > While I can't be certain of this, he also seems to have found
>> > a new result about digit patterns in prime factors of repunits.
>> > Don't know about the near-prime factors, though.
>>
>> > Damnit:  sorry. Just because I'm posting from Podunk, Mass., it
>> > doesn't mean I have no manners or voted Hussein.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> The above post is a forgery.  I did not write it.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Please note.  Anyone who has read my posts over the years should
> realize
> that I do not write in the same style as the forgery.

That, plus the forgery is obvious by inspecting the posting's Path:
header. The forged posting has exactly the same (somewhat unusual) Path:
as barker's postings.

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Re: trying to RECOGNIZE REPUNIT FACTORS BY HAND INSPECTION barker <name.temporarily.withheld@antispamming.harvard.edu> - 2012-04-14 10:40 +0200
  Re: trying to RECOGNIZE REPUNIT FACTORS BY HAND INSPECTION quasi <quasi@null.set> - 2012-04-14 13:03 -0500
    Re: trying to RECOGNIZE REPUNIT FACTORS BY HAND INSPECTION Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> - 2012-04-14 12:34 -0700
      Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS barker <name.temporarily.withheld@antispamming.harvard.edu> - 2012-04-15 06:53 +0200
        Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS quasi <quasi@null.set> - 2012-04-15 03:07 -0500
          Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS Tonico <Tonicopm@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-15 02:26 -0700
            Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS quasi <quasi@null.set> - 2012-04-15 06:18 -0500
          Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS quasi <quasi@null.set> - 2012-04-15 06:14 -0500
          Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS barker <name.temporarily.withheld@antispamming.harvard.edu> - 2012-04-16 04:43 +0200
            Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS quasi <quasi@null.set> - 2012-04-15 23:43 -0500
              Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> - 2012-04-16 05:50 -0700
                Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> - 2012-04-16 05:54 -0700
                Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS quasi <quasi@null.set> - 2012-04-16 12:21 -0500
                Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> - 2012-04-16 09:52 -0700
                Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS quasi <quasi@null.set> - 2012-04-16 14:50 -0500
                Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> - 2012-04-16 12:28 -0700
                Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> - 2012-04-19 04:43 +0200
                Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS quasi <quasi@null.set> - 2012-04-19 04:08 -0500
                Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> - 2012-04-19 02:47 -0700
                Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> - 2012-04-19 04:22 -0700
                Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS Jan Andres <J@nAndr.es> - 2012-04-19 13:10 +0000
                Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> - 2012-04-19 09:00 -0700
                Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS Tonico <Tonicopm@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-19 10:17 -0700
            Re: trying to EXAMINE THE DIGITS OF CERTAIN PRIMES FOR PATTERNS Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> - 2012-04-16 06:04 -0700
  Re: trying to RECOGNIZE REPUNIT FACTORS BY HAND INSPECTION Frederick Williams <freddywilliams@btinternet.com> - 2012-04-14 22:37 +0100

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