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Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load?

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On 02/26/2012 11:44 AM, Peter H. Coffin wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:08:25 -0700, crankypuss wrote:
>
>> I've never been successful in digging around to find out how the few
>> web pages I've seen are able to update the page without constant
>> flickering and so on, it's my impression (*not* understanding, I lack
>> that) that http is a client/server protocol and that once a request
>> has been fulfilled the transaction is over. I'm curious, but not
>> compelled.
>>
>> On the other hand I have been somewhat successful in creating the same
>> appearance by using closely spaced refreshes, most browsers seem not
>> to clear the screen prior to rendering so if the next is mostly the
>> same as the last it appears to have been partially updated.
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by "web sockets", I've used the kind of
>> sockets provided by PHP but if you mean something else I've no clue
>> what that might be.
>
> javascript does not shut down just because the page is finished
> loading. The javascript makes a background request to a specialize "not
> generating a web page, just feeding data" script on the server, then
> updates its own document (that is, the rendered page) based on the new
> data it receives.

Pretty tough to implement when the user has chosen to disable js, but 
then I assume that one of the items on the agenda of those in control is 
to remove that choice from the idiot non-purchasing user's hands while 
working toward stealing from him if he is unwilling to give.

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Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-22 22:26 +0000
  Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2012-02-22 16:27 -0800
  Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-02-22 22:49 -0500
  Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? "Álvaro G. Vicario" <alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX@demogracia.com.invalid> - 2012-02-24 13:40 +0100
    Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-24 13:26 +0000
      Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? bill <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2012-02-25 07:56 -0500
        Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2012-02-25 17:21 +0000
          Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-02-26 01:31 -0700
            Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-26 12:25 +0000
              Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-02-26 11:08 -0700
                Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page   load? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2012-02-26 19:40 +0100
                Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-02-26 13:06 -0700
                Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-26 21:12 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2012-02-26 12:44 -0600
                Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-02-26 13:09 -0700
                Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-26 21:14 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-02-27 04:02 -0700
      Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? "Álvaro G. Vicario" <alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX@demogracia.com.invalid> - 2012-02-27 10:22 +0100
        Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-27 12:00 +0000
          Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? "Álvaro G. Vicario" <alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX@demogracia.com.invalid> - 2012-02-27 14:08 +0100
            Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-27 14:12 +0000
              Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? "Álvaro G. Vicario" <alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX@demogracia.com.invalid> - 2012-02-27 17:18 +0100
                Re: Is there a way to distinguish an auto-refresh from a manual page load? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-02-27 11:59 -0500

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