Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ?

From	Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, comp.editors
Subject	Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ?
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Date	2012-01-31 10:18 +0000
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Robert Heller wrote:

> English language, which includes Americans, Candians, Austrailians, all
> of the British Isles.  I was just objecting to the use base64
> encoding.  It is *unfriendly*.  

Do you often take the time to rummage through post headers to find out if 
unfriendly options were set?

> I would have to add additional (and
> really unnecesary) code to be newsreader.  

Specifying which encoding scheme is used is not an unnecessary option.  In 
fact, your unreasonable complain demonstrates that it is in fact not only 
reasonable but also required.

> There isn't any really good
> reason to use base64 encoding for *text*, unless you are making heavy
> use of UTF-16 (eg the message is in Chinese using Chinese characters).

UTF-8 is also Unicode, and the reason why it has been adopted globally to 
replace ASCII or ISO 8859-1 is not due to "Chinese using Chinese 
characters".  You try to write anything in any language other than English 
and you will quickly understand the shortcomings of ASCII/ISO 8859-1.  In 
fact, you don't even need to use languages other than English, as none of 
those encodings support the euro sign.

> English (or really any language using the Roman alphabet) using either
> ASCII (sufficent for English) or one of the 8-bit ASCII supersets either
> needs no encoding or can use a lightweight encoding (quoted-printable,
> etc.). Base64 is just plain overkill and is totally unreadably without
> lots of extra processing.

Again, you are showing your ignorance.  UTF-8 is Unicode, it a superset of 
ASCII and you can use it to render any character you see fit.  So, I don't 
really see the point of your complains. 

Rui Maciel

Thread

Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Luis Denera <luisdenera@invalid.net> - 2012-01-28 04:33 +0000
  Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? rouben@shady.(none) (Rouben Rostamian) - 2012-01-28 07:41 +0000
  Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-28 10:38 +0000
    Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Norbert Möndjen <n.moendjen@vodafone.de> - 2012-01-28 13:01 +0100
      Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-28 16:00 +0000
  Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-28 06:07 -0600
    Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-01-28 12:17 +0000
      Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-01-28 19:13 +0100
      Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-28 22:28 -0600
        Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-01-29 05:03 +0000
        Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-01-29 07:06 -0500
          Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-29 07:35 -0600
            Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-01-30 12:46 -0500
              Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-30 12:32 -0600
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-30 19:02 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-01-30 15:23 -0500
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-30 22:39 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-01-30 14:03 -0500
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2012-01-30 20:31 +0100
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-30 14:22 -0600
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-01-30 20:02 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-30 14:31 -0600
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-01-30 20:48 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-30 20:48 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2012-01-30 18:10 -0600
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-31 10:18 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-31 10:53 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-01-31 16:15 -0500
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Paul Bartlett <bartlett@panix.com> - 2012-01-31 17:20 -0500
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-31 17:27 -0600
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Laurent Claessens <moky.math@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 09:41 +0100
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Feranija <feranija@mouse-potato.com> - 2012-02-01 01:53 -0800
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 11:14 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Laurent Claessens <moky.math@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 15:11 +0100
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 09:20 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-01 09:49 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 10:58 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-01 12:48 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 13:59 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2012-02-05 16:52 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-02-05 11:04 -0600
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-05 20:23 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-02-05 17:09 -0600
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-05 23:40 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-06 08:41 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 10:34 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-06 10:48 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-06 11:04 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 12:25 +0000
                Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-02-06 14:47 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 15:34 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-02-06 16:30 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-02-06 16:50 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" - is now "sig wars" gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-02-06 17:01 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" - is now "sig wars" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-06 17:34 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 18:30 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - Now: Just tryin' to help, ma'am... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-02-06 22:49 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - Now: Just tryin' to help, ma'am... Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 01:58 +0100
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - Now: Just tryin' to help, ma'am... Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 11:20 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - Now: Just tryin' to help, ma'am... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-02-07 12:17 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2012-02-06 14:15 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2012-02-06 11:16 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-06 11:29 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2012-02-06 12:45 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-06 15:02 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 13:08 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-31 01:05 +0000
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-01-31 03:25 +0100
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2012-02-01 04:09 +0100
                Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2012-02-01 05:54 +0000
  Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? DenverD <DenverD@invalid.dk> - 2012-01-28 22:48 +0100
  Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? JeffM <jeffm_@email.com> - 2012-01-28 18:23 -0800
  Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-28 18:36 +0000
  Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? pH <pureheart@pacbell.net> - 2012-02-01 09:18 -0800
    Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2012-02-01 20:35 +0000
      Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-02-01 17:24 -0500
        Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2012-02-01 23:17 +0000
          Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-02-01 20:42 -0500
            Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Krzysztof Mitko <fakemail@krzysztof.at.eml.dot.cc> - 2012-02-02 08:01 +0000
            Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-02 09:02 +0000
        Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2012-02-02 04:29 +0000
    Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-02-01 15:24 -0500
    Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Feranija <feranija@mouse-potato.com> - 2012-02-04 13:20 -0800
      Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aaron W. Hsu <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-02-04 18:03 -0600
  Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? danca <ynnadrebyc@tiscalinet.it> - 2012-02-01 19:54 +0100
    Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-02-01 15:17 -0500
      Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-01 20:58 +0000
        Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-01 22:21 +0100
      Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Feranija <feranija@mouse-potato.com> - 2012-02-01 13:18 -0800
        Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-01 22:27 +0100
          Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? danca <ynnadrebyc@tiscalinet.it> - 2012-02-02 00:58 +0100
            Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-02 02:58 +0100
          Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-02 01:08 +0000
            Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-02 02:59 +0100

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