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Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this?

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On 1/11/2012 10:14 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Jorgen Grahn<grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>  wrote:
>> I suspect others write 'unsigned int' because they believe verbosity
>> increases readability.  I remember I did that very early in my career.
>
>    I have the exact opposite experience: Most noobs believe that verbosity
> decreases readability, and thus proceed to write what effectively is
> obfuscated C++.
>
>    Unfortunately, even some experienced professionals have this
> misconception.

<shrug>

Read quickly:  Raedablity is a mtater of ahbit and is'nt guiedd by eaxct 
precpetpion; itis fzuzy.

You managed to read the line above, didn't you?  It's the same way with 
the source.  'unsigned int' or 'unsigned' doesn't really matter for 
readability.  A quick glance gives all the information one needs. 
However, when it comes to bits and their positions, it's different.  I 
guess, it all comes down to the degree of complexity and one's knack to 
read (comprehend) what others might consider obscure, like hexadecimals 
or octals.

Here is another example.  In our codebase we have tons of flags, most of 
which have symbolic representation.  That representation hasn't changed 
in years.  Yet, I can't read the value 0x29020 (only four bits, mind 
you) and quickly figure out what bits are set.  So, for debugging (and 
only for debugging) I wrote a decoder function that displays the value 
in the symbolic form...  And in the code the value is never written as a 
number.  It's the debugging that presents a problem, AFAIC.

V
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Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? BCFD36 <bcfd36@aol.com> - 2012-01-09 17:11 -0800
  Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2012-01-10 02:23 +0100
    Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2012-01-10 06:05 +0000
      Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2012-01-10 07:12 +0100
        Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? BCFD36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> - 2012-01-09 22:35 -0800
      Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-01-10 06:58 +0000
    Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-10 21:58 +0000
      Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b@dd-b.net> - 2012-01-10 16:46 -0600
      Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2012-01-10 23:41 +0000
        Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-11 00:19 +0000
          Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? "MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-10 21:53 -0600
      Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2012-01-11 15:14 +0000
        Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> - 2012-01-11 11:46 -0500
  Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-10 14:30 +1300
    Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? BCFD36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> - 2012-01-09 21:32 -0800
      Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2012-01-10 01:01 -0600
        Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? BCFD36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> - 2012-01-09 23:11 -0800
          Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2012-01-11 10:23 +0000
            Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2012-01-11 10:37 +0000
        Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-10 00:30 -0800
          Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2012-01-10 16:31 +0100
            Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2012-01-10 17:14 +0000
              Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> - 2012-01-10 15:11 -0500
                Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? Richard <rgrdev_@gmail.com> - 2012-01-10 21:45 +0100
                Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? hanukas <jukka@liimatta.org> - 2012-01-11 00:04 -0800
                Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? hanukas <jukka@liimatta.org> - 2012-01-11 00:15 -0800
                Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-10 21:51 +0000
                Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? "Bill Davy" <Bill@SynectixLtd.com> - 2012-01-11 08:30 +0000
                Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? "Fred Zwarts \(KVI\)" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> - 2012-01-11 09:40 +0100
                Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? hanukas <jukka@liimatta.org> - 2012-01-11 06:50 -0800
                Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2012-01-11 17:28 +0000
                Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b@dd-b.net> - 2012-01-11 13:28 -0600
            Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-01-11 17:51 +0000
            Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-12 05:40 -0800
              Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? BCFD36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> - 2012-01-12 20:42 -0800
          Re: Coding Style Question - Is there any sane reason for doing this? hanukas <jukka@liimatta.org> - 2012-01-10 23:50 -0800

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