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| From | "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: include |
| Date | 2011-12-15 23:30 +0000 |
| Organization | Netfront http://www.netfront.net/ |
| Message-ID | <jcdvu7$p45$1@adenine.netfront.net> (permalink) |
| References | (12 earlier) <NKydnTDIr-Uj_HfTnZ2dnUVZ7vqdnZ2d@giganews.com> <jcdp8h$fpo$1@adenine.netfront.net> <vvGdnVDWo7WX93fTnZ2dnUVZ8mCdnZ2d@giganews.com> <jcds1h$je3$1@adenine.netfront.net> <TsGdna2KRdsj4nfTnZ2dnUVZ8hCdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
"Leigh Johnston" <leigh@i42.co.uk> wrote in message news:TsGdna2KRdsj4nfTnZ2dnUVZ8hCdnZ2d@giganews.com... > On 15/12/2011 22:23, Paul <pchrist wrote: >> "Leigh Johnston"<leigh@i42.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:vvGdnVDWo7WX93fTnZ2dnUVZ8mCdnZ2d@giganews.com... >>> On 15/12/2011 21:36, Paul<pchrist wrote: >> <snip> >>>>> >>>> A typical compiler outputs object code , not machine code. It doesn't >>>> matter >>>> if its a C or a C++ compiler. Typically the object code is then passed >>>> through a linker to obtain machine code. >>>> >>>> Just because the object code *may* contain a text section which has >>>> some >>>> "machine code" within it, this doesn't mean its ok to call the object >>>> code/file , as a whole, machine code. >>>> You are obviously of the opinion that machine code is no different from >>>> object code and thus this loose terminology is acceptable to you. To >>>> call >>>> an >>>> object file , which contains object code, machine code when it cannot >>>> be >>>> run >>>> on any machine, nor it is intended to be run on a machine is >>>> technically >>>> inaccurate. >>> >>> Except at no point did I ever say that an object file "as a whole" is >>> machine code in fact I explicitly said that an object file *contains* >>> relocatable machine code *among other things* you just thought you could >>> get some mileage by trying to skew what I meant by the word "directly" >>> in >>> my initial post which was discussing C++ compilers that emitted C code >>> rather than machine code. >>> >>> Your position was that a C++ compiler does not emit machine code and >>> that >>> it instead emits object code but you sneakily (and transparently) tried >>> to >>> move the goal posts by talking about "files" rather than "code". You >>> really are a joke. >>> >> Your original statemnt was about the direct output from a compiler, which >> is >> a file. I have not shifted any goalposts by talking about a this file. > > My original statement was about a C++ compiler that produces C code that > also requires compilation compared to a C++ compiler that produces machine > code "directly"; why can you not understand this? Is it plain stupidity? But C++ compilers don't output machine code directly, they output object files which contain object code. > >> This file is an object file , which contains object code. The code is in >> this file may not even contain an entry point function and you are >> calling >> this file machine code. > > For the nth time: object files contain relocatable machine code among > other things. This file contains C++ code but that doesn't make it C++ code: int x = 10; You are calling the output from a compiler machine code , when its not machine code, its object code. An object file may contain some machine code in the text section but this doesn't justify calling the thing , as a whole , machine code. > >> >> Perhaps you weren't actually talking about the ouptut from a compiler >> when >> you said .." the direct output from a compiler". > > I was talking about a compiler that produces something that still requires > compilation (C code) versus something that doesn't. What C++ compiler outputs C code anyway? > >> It doesn't surprise me that you now trying to deny that you were talking >> about this file(the output form a compiler) > > I have not changed my position one iota; the same can not be said of > yourself. > Well you remain wrong then. A C++ compiler outputs object code, not machine code or C code. --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to news@netfront.net ---
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