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Re: C++ source code compilation

From "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: C++ source code compilation
Date 2011-12-10 01:51 +0000
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"Leigh Johnston" <leigh@i42.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:L5udnSYSm7coBn_TnZ2dnUVZ8g2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On 09/12/2011 23:15, Paul <pchrist wrote:
>> "Leigh Johnston"<leigh@i42.co.uk>  wrote in message
>> news:dYydnVEIL4a1-n_TnZ2dnUVZ7o-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> On 09/12/2011 19:36, Paul<pchrist wrote:
>>>> "Leigh Johnston"<leigh@i42.co.uk>   wrote in message
>>>> news:a42dnV8sHekGuX_TnZ2dnUVZ8lOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>> On 09/12/2011 14:58, Paul<pchrist wrote:
>>>>>> "Leigh Johnston"<leigh@i42.co.uk>    wrote in message
>>>>>> news:M_GdnRniktjVgX_TnZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>> On 09/12/2011 14:20, Paul<pchrist wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Juha Nieminen"<nospam@thanks.invalid>     wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4ee20074$0$3105$7b1e8fa0@news.nbl.fi...
>>>>>>>>> "Paul"<pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> No both are not right. Object code is not machine code, it may
>>>>>>>>>> contain
>>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>> that resembles machine code but it's not machine code as it 
>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>> by any cpu on this planet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      I think I know what happened here. When someone said that an
>>>>>>>>> object
>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>> contains compiled machined code, you erroneously thought that he
>>>>>>>>> meant
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> an object file is directly executable as-is. Thus in your typical
>>>>>>>>> sociopath
>>>>>>>>> manner you loudly and proudly objected to the notion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No what was said was that a compiler directly outputs machine code.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Read back you bafoon.<snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A compiler directly outputs objects files and object files typically
>>>>>>> contain relocatable machine code ergo compilers typically directly
>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>> machine code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a newgroup post contains C++ code , do you call that message a 
>>>>>> C++
>>>>>> code
>>>>>> file? No!
>>>>>> If a file has a section that contains some machine code, this doesn't
>>>>>> neccessarily make that file machine code.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earlier I posted:
>>>>>
>>>>> "A linker links object files produced by the compiler together and an
>>>>> object file contains machine code."
>>>>>
>>>>> To which you replied:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Object files do not contain machine code. * Shakes head in 
>>>>> disbelief*"
>>>>>
>>>>> So you are now finally admitting your mistake: objects files typically
>>>>> do
>>>>> indeed contain machine code; well done.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The compiler outputs a file that contains object code, not machine 
>>>> code.
>>>>
>>>> You think you being smart calling object files(which contain object 
>>>> code)
>>>> machine code.
>>>> Object code != machine code.
>>>> Object code is object code.
>>>> Machine code is machine code
>>>> They are different things, understand this please and stop calling 
>>>> object
>>>> code, machine code. you fuckin half wit.
>>>
>>> Oh so you were not admitting your mistake after all; oh well, not too
>>> surprising considering that you are so dense that you have your own 
>>> event
>>> horizon.
>>>
>> What mistake?
>> The only mistake is yours here.
>>
>> What part of your child like brain makes you think that object code and
>> machine code are the same thing?
>> This is obviously what you are suggesting.
>> You obviously think that a compilers' output is machine code yet also 
>> object
>> code, so ask yourself...why do they have different names? Why distinguish
>> between any different coding specificatons at all . All code is the same 
>> and
>> at the end of the day as it will all be read by some machine after enough
>> translations.
>
> I hate repeating myself but you seem to have memory problems so again from 
> Wikipedia:
>
> "An object file is a file containing relocatable format /machine code/ 
> that is usually not directly executable."
>

We've already estaiblished what may be contained within an object file. The 
problem is that your limited brain capacity doesn't allow you to understand 
that 'containing reallocatable format machine code' doesn't actually mean 
the that the file, as a whole, is machine code.

I have a windows machine and VC++, ok so I compile a basic program and 
produce an object file.
How exactly do you run this object file if it is trully machine code?
Are you suggesting its machine code but it cannot be run on any single 
machine on the planet?

You are suggesting that because it contains machine code it IS machine code. 
The purpose of the file is not to be executed as machine code. Likewise the 
purpose of this text message is not intended as C++ code but it contains C++ 
code look...
int main(){
/*blah blah blah*/.
}

Does the inclusion of C++ code in this file make it a C++ code file? Thats 
how ridiculous your fuckin argument is numbskull. 



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  Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 17:06 +0000
    Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-07 07:39 +0000
      Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-07 14:11 +0000
      Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-07 17:37 +0000
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            Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-08 09:28 +0000
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    Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-07 17:39 +0000
      Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-07 18:02 +0000
        Re: C++ source code compilation Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-12-07 14:58 -0600
        Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-07 22:20 +0000
          Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-07 22:42 +0000
            Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-08 01:54 +0000
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            Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-07 22:58 +0000
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                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 10:58 +0000
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                Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 14:33 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 14:58 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-09 15:11 +0000
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                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 19:36 +0000
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                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 23:04 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 23:15 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 23:37 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 01:51 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-10 09:51 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 13:50 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-11 08:53 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-11 20:17 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 12:37 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 13:45 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-10 13:49 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 14:37 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-11 08:55 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 14:07 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 14:28 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 14:50 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 14:54 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 15:17 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 18:13 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 18:36 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 22:34 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 22:46 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 23:25 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 23:30 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-11 03:23 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-11 09:12 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-12 10:05 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 12:05 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-12 12:58 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-11 13:29 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-11 20:33 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-12-11 07:14 -0800
                Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-11 09:07 +0000
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                Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 15:24 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-11 09:05 +0000
                Re: C++ source code compilation Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-12-11 09:01 +0000
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            Re: C++ source code compilation Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-12-11 21:02 +0000
            Re: C++ source code compilation "Paul" <pchrist<nospam>or@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 02:19 +0000
              Re: C++ source code compilation 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-12-11 20:02 -0800
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