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Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X

From James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X
Date 2011-11-27 20:04 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <jaumnm$3nd$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <ldj5q8-f15.ln1@voyager.wichi.de.vu> <jatbdt$a6i$1@dont-email.me> <20111127084556.976@kylheku.com> <jats1j$geg$1@dont-email.me> <20111127104107.714@kylheku.com>

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On 11/27/2011 01:48 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
...
> There are already portable implementations of POSIX threads. If you want POSIX
> threads on Win32, you can get it.

I'm no expert on Windows programming, I just listened to the debate in
the "C is fixed?" and "The threading specs in the new standard: a new
catastrophe" threads during July and August this year. Many people
participating in those threads knew a lot more about it than I do. Some
experts claimed that POSIX threads only worked in the POSIX subsystem of
Win32, and that most features of Window are NOT available when using
that subsystem. Those people provided links to Microsoft documentation
that appeared to support that claim. Those who's response to the claim
was to say "what POSIX subsystem? I've no idea what you're talking
about" never bothered to address the issues raised by the links that the
first group provided. I found the first group's claims correspondingly
more believable.

The <threads.h> interface was intended to be designed so it could, among
other things, be implemented as a thin wrapper over native threading
features of Windows, as well as other non-POSIX systems. It should
therefore be usable in native Windows mode programs, and not just
programs written for the POSIX subsystem of Win32. I've no idea whether
they achieved that goal.

I never received an answer from anyone to either of my questions to Rui
Maciel on 2011-07-12 in the "C is fixed?" thread. Would you care to
answer them?
-- 
James Kuyper

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Still no dirent.h in C1X David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com> - 2011-11-24 04:43 -0800
  Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-24 09:19 -0500
  Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Quentin Pope <qp19433@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> - 2011-11-25 20:01 +0000
    Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-26 09:03 +1300
      Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-11-25 12:18 -0800
        Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-26 10:14 +1300
    Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-11-25 21:18 +0100
      Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2011-11-26 13:23 -0600
        Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-11-26 23:43 +0100
          Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Quentin Pope <qp19433@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> - 2011-12-02 22:26 +0000
            Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X John Tsiombikas <nuclear@member.fsf.org> - 2011-12-02 22:35 +0000
            Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-12-03 00:51 +0100
    Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net> - 2011-11-25 23:54 +0100
      Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2011-11-25 20:18 -0500
      Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-11-26 07:21 +0000
      Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Kleuske <kleuske@nowhere.net> - 2011-11-26 11:27 +0000
    Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-25 22:25 -0800
    Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X André Gillibert <MetaEntropy.removeThis@gmail.com> - 2011-11-27 01:13 +0100
  Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-11-25 12:24 -0800
  Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-11-25 20:38 +0000
    Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net> - 2011-11-26 00:02 +0100
      Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-11-26 17:15 +0000
        Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Lauri Alanko <la@iki.fi> - 2011-11-26 21:36 +0000
      Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X "James" <no@spam.invalid> - 2011-11-26 10:31 -0800
      Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2011-11-26 22:13 -0500
      Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-11-27 07:45 -0500
        Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-11-27 16:52 +0000
          Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-11-27 12:29 -0500
            Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-11-27 18:48 +0000
              Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2011-11-27 16:21 -0500
                Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X John Tsiombikas <nuclear@member.fsf.org> - 2011-11-28 01:57 +0000
              Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-11-27 20:04 -0500
              Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 13:51 -0800
                Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net> - 2011-11-30 16:46 +0100
                Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-11-30 11:19 -0500
                Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-11-30 16:51 +0000
                Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-11-30 13:12 -0800
                Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-01 10:15 +1300
                Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-11-30 13:19 -0800
                Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-01 04:45 +0200
        Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net> - 2011-11-27 23:30 +0100
          Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-11-28 06:42 -0500
            Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net> - 2011-11-28 15:09 +0100
  Re: Still no dirent.h in C1X blp@cs.stanford.edu (Ben Pfaff) - 2011-11-25 15:44 -0800

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