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Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles

From "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles
Date 2011-11-24 17:10 +0100
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On 24.11.2011 16:54, Leigh Johnston wrote:
> On 24/11/2011 15:06, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
>> On 24.11.2011 15:53, Leigh Johnston wrote:
>>> On 24/11/2011 14:40, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://alfps.wordpress.com/?p=356&shareadraft=4ece5380818f3
>>>>
>>>> You may have a chance to affect the final posting... :-)
>>>>
>>>> The link is just to an unfinished draft (maybe I'll complete this this
>>>> evening), but much read-worthy there, I think.
>>>
>>> Off-topic.
>>
>> I wouldn't have posted here if I thought it was off topic here.
>>
>> Despite the lack of a charter for this newsgroup.
>>
>> It's about using the C++ language and about limitations in the C++
>> standard library.
>>
>> You may of course think that it's environment specific, like,
>> "Windows!". And in one very limited sense it is. But on the other hand,
>> it is necessary to discuss these details in order to be able to write
>> portable C++ code.
>>
>> As a minimum example, the copy program in Josutti's book, while intended
>> to be portable and by many people believed to be portable, is not. It is
>> actually environment specific, while appearing to be portable. While the
>> code I'm discussing is opposite: it may appear to be
>> environment-specific, but is actually in support of portability ;-).
>
> Your code *is* environment specific; it doesn't just *appear* to be
> environment specific hence it is off-topic here; try posting it in a
> Micro$oft newsgroup instead.

You didn't get the point.

But thank you for the advice about posting to Microsoft groups.

Although I am sure that you were suggesting that for entirely wrong reasons.

Posting to a Microsoft group could in principle be useful for getting 
some action going so that the same C++ code could be used portably in 
Windows and Linux (at least). However, I know from experience that such 
postings are met with hate and disdain from the fanboys that frequent 
the MS groups. Similarly, Microsoft's very practical suggestion to have 
source code files start with a BOM, is ridiculed in the *nix Unicode FAQ 
and other *nix documents. So there's much hate and idiocy on both sides 
of that historical conflict. I'd rather avoid that.

Folks who read this group can instead learn a lot about C++, and help to 
influence the future, by reading good blogs such as mine. ;-)

http://alfps.wordpress.com/?p=356&shareadraft=4ece5380818f3


Cheers & hth.,

- Alf

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Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-11-24 15:40 +0100
  Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-11-24 14:53 +0000
    Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-11-24 16:06 +0100
      Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-11-24 15:54 +0000
        Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-11-24 17:10 +0100
          Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-11-24 16:28 +0000
            Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-11-24 18:06 +0100
              Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-11-24 18:24 +0000
          Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-11-24 20:16 +0100
            Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2011-11-25 04:34 -0800
              Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-11-25 14:31 +0000
                Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles Tobias Müller <troplin@bluewin.ch> - 2011-11-26 09:20 +0000
              Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-25 21:50 -0800
  Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles "Liviu" <lab2k1@gmail.c0m> - 2011-11-24 12:30 -0600
    Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-11-24 20:31 +0100
      Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles "Liviu" <lab2k1@gmail.c0m> - 2011-11-24 14:10 -0600
  Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles Johannes Schaub <schaub.johannes@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-24 22:20 +0100
    Re: Request for comments on forthcoming blog posting about Unicode in Windows consoles "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-11-24 23:27 +0100

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