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Re: printing to shared LaserJet 4100 just sits in queue - please help

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From: "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com>

>
> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:j97ha10kvp@news3.newsguy.com...
>> From: "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com>
>>
>>>
>>> Some responses are inline ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:j97bpm0gr3@news3.newsguy.com...
>>>> From: "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com>
>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, yes, I have tried a used external print server,
>>>>>> which might have been defective.  So,
>>>>>> I'm still looking for a good print server.
>>>>>> It's been on my list of things to do.  Not sure I want to
>>>>>> get a JetDirect print server, the one in my printer does not work.
>>>>>> And, JetDirect reviews are less than stellar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, I went out and bought a brand new TRENDnet print server.
>>>>> And, like the used one, it still takes down the network.  This time,
>>>>> I used Firestarter to dig further.  Firestarter blocked the following event ...
>>>>>
>>>>> PORT = 67
>>>>> SOURCE = 0.0.0.0        [the culprit ?]
>>>>> PROTOCOL = UDP
>>>>> SERVICE = DHCP
>>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't the above event conflict with some routers [192.168.0.xxx]?
>>>>>
>>>>> And, the following event ...
>>>>>
>>>>> PORT = <blank>
>>>>> SOURCE = 192.168.0.xxx        [valid print server IP address not shown]
>>>>> PROTOCOL = ICMP
>>>>> SERVICE = Unknown        [the culprit ?]
>>>>>
>>>>> Firestarter Preferences has ICMP Filtering enabled with ALL options checked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have two JetDirects (200M & 300x) on my SOHO LAN and I have managed ~140 printers 
>>>> with a wide variety internal or external JetDirect units. Just looking on my shelf I 
>>>> have two 300x,a 610N and 615N ready to be used. Albeit it isn't HP but, I even have a 
>>>> MPI BlueTooth printer server.  I know print servers and I can state emphatically that 
>>>> *any* JetDirect reviews that indicate they are less than stellar is not true. But 
>>>> will admit they are more expensive.
>>>>
>>>> TCP Port is BootPS and is often used in conjunction with TFTP to both assign an IP 
>>>> and configure the Print Server.  It is the predecessor of DHCP and thus when the 
>>>> print server announces I have IP 0.0.0.0 with a provided MAC address via TCP port 67 
>>>> it is requesting a DHCP server to assign it an address.  If you are using a SOHO 
>>>> Router chances are high the Router is at 192.168.1.1 and that Router is the DHCP 
>>>> Server and you are not allowing the TRENDnet to get an IP assigned to it by the 
>>>> Router.
>>>
>>> That's right, since most suggestions have been to use static (not dynamic) IP address.
>>> Should I use DHCP instead now ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you have the ability to configure TRENDnet out-of-band (such as a Serial port) you 
>>>> can use that approach to statically set the TCP/IP stack.
>>>
>>> You lost me here.  I'll have to look into this.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Otherwise you will have to allow the TRENDnet to get an IP assigned to it by the 
>>>> Router.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Dave
>>>> Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
>>>> http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
>>>
>>> Thanks, the TRENDnet print server has been "manually" assigned an IP address that
>>> is just outside and before (less than) the DHCP server's IP address range.
>>>
>>> I followed this link ...
>>> http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/BEFSR41-DHCP-reservation/td-p/283377
>>>
>>> So, I am confused why the print server is still asking for an IP address from DHCP 
>>> server.
>>>
>>> What am I missing?
>>>
>>
>> I don't know what Router you are using or what you have done.
>>
>> If the Router has a BootP capability then you must know the MAC address of the Print 
>> Server and enter it and the assigned IP into an address table on the Router.  Thus when 
>> the print server announces it has an IP 0.0.0.0 with a provided MAC address, the Router 
>> compares the MAC address to the assigment list and then dishes out the IP address from 
>> that table.
>>
>> It is MUCH easier to let the TRENDnet use DHCP and get an IP address. Then you can look 
>> at the Router's assigment table and you can either HTTP or Telnet into the Print Server 
>> and statically set the IP address to that address or a different address.  Note that if 
>> a node has a statically set IP address within the DHCP assigment range then it will be 
>> skipped when assigning addresses for other devcices.  Persomnally I reserve the the 
>> first 25 IP addresses to static assigments (example:  192.168.1.2 ~ 192.168.1.25 ) and 
>> the DHCP server can dish out the rest (example: 192.168.1.26 ~ 192.168.1.254 ).
>>
>> In one office I managed, we had numerous licenses of the Hummingbird eXceed TCP/IP 
>> suite. I setup a BootP/TFTP Server.  In it I had all the MAC address and IP assigment 
>> table and text files for each HP JetDirect that had a firmware that can use BootP/TFTP. 
>> When the JetDirect was powered-up, it would get an IP address via BootP and then use 
>> TFTP to get and interpret the text file which told the Print Server what all its 
>> settings were so I didn't have to manually confgure each and every one via telnet or 
>> HTTP.
>>
>> When it comes to TCP/IP capable applliances, there are two ways to configure them. 
>> In-band and out-of-band.  In-band configuration would be through a networking protocol. 
>> Out-of-band configuration would be done via a serial or other port.  Then using a 
>> Terminal Emulation software, you would connect something like a notebook via a serial 
>> cable to the appliance and use VT100 Terminal Emulation to setup the TCP/IP stack and 
>> any/all other settings.
>>
>
> Thanks (Guru Dave), the TRENDnet print server works great now.
> Turns out I was using both shared ports (Uplink & Port 1) on the router. Stupid me !
>

YW and thanx for updating the thread.


-- 
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp 

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                Re: printing to shared LaserJet 4100 just sits in queue - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2011-11-06 18:13 -0800
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