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Re: C++ library names

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On 9/13/2011 3:24 AM, Goran wrote:
> On Sep 12, 6:24 pm, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard<J.deBoynePollard-
> newsgro...@NTLWorld.COM>  wrote:
>>> This "problem" is called "name mangling" [...]
>>
>> No it isn't.  It's many programmers' simplistic statement of the
>> problem, but name mangling is merely a symptom of the actual problem,
>> which is a lack of binary compatibility across compilers, which
>> stretches to a lot more things than just symbol names.  M. Zakharevich
>> hit the nail squarely on the head:  DirectToSOM C++ solves this.  It's a
>> pity that (a) the class library wasn't compiled to SOM by the IBM
>> compiler, and (b) GCC isn't capable of DirectToSOM C++.
>
> Binary compatibility? Meh. C and C++ as __languages__ do not have
> that.
>
> I personally am not a fan of binary compatibility and I believe people
> are overrating this. If code from different toolchains or languages
> needs to speak to each other, there's integration technologies. One of
> them is called "the C interface used by the platform (OS)". That's a
> dumb one (effective, though, and any monkey gets it). There's more
> (or, rather, very) complex stuff like COM of MS. There's also "VM as
> integration technology" (Java, .NET). Finally, there's also "one
> compiler version integration" of C++. There's all this choice since
> forever.
>
> We would gain little with putting binary compatibility into C or C++.
>

I disagree.  If you're in control of all the code you use, one compiler 
is fine.  If you're getting code from everywhichwhere, like so many 
projects do today, it's a real problem.  Even with open source, having 
to compile everything from scratch and cope with the quirks and 
incompatibilities of several compilers is a real handicap.

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C++ library names James Moe <jimoeDESPAM@sohnen-moe.com> - 2011-09-09 01:32 -0700
  Re: C++ library names Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-09 08:05 -0400
    Re: C++ library names Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org> - 2011-09-09 15:25 +0000
  Re: C++ library names KO Myung-Hun <komh@chollian.net> - 2011-09-09 21:09 +0900
  Re: C++ library names Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-09-09 13:17 +0100
  Re: C++ library names "Lars Erdmann" <lars.erdmann@arcor.de> - 2011-09-10 10:23 +0200
    Re: C++ library names Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-10 07:25 -0400
    Re: C++ library names Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-09-12 17:24 +0100
      Re: C++ library names Goran <goran.pusic@gmail.com> - 2011-09-13 00:24 -0700
        Re: C++ library names Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2011-09-13 07:22 -0400
          Re: C++ library names Goran <goran.pusic@gmail.com> - 2011-09-13 05:06 -0700
  Re: C++ library names James Moe <jimoeDESPAM@sohnen-moe.com> - 2011-09-10 12:15 -0700
    Re: C++ library names "Rich Walsh" <spamyourself@127.0.0.1> - 2011-09-11 03:08 +0000
      Re: C++ library names Marty <net@comcast.martyamodeo> - 2011-09-15 10:03 -0700
        Re: C++ library names "Lars Erdmann" <lars.erdmann@arcor.de> - 2011-09-15 19:46 +0200

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