Re: 'smttter IBMdroids

From	Del Cecchi <delcecchi@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.arch
Subject	Re: 'smttter IBMdroids
Date	2011-09-03 21:50 -0500
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On 9/3/2011 9:02 PM, Robert Myers wrote:
> On 9/2/2011 7:04 PM, Del Cecchi wrote:
>
>>
>> Sorry, I still don't get it. Itanium was an implementation of VLIW,
>> which a number of companies, including IBM were pursuing at the time.
>> Itanium failed because Intel/HPQ motives were impure.
>>
>> If tyou don't know where you are going then any direction will get you
>> there.
>>
>> I worked on Midrange stuff and have my own opinions about the Pok mafia.
>> But I still don't understand why you are so bent out of shape over the
>> IBM supercomputer efforts.
>>
>> When Blue Gene was merely a glimmer of an idea between Yorktown and
>> Rochester (they needed Rochester to actually build it) it was an
>> interesting idea as to how to put together a bunch of processors to have
>> enough power (mips/flops/whatever) to do interesting stuff like
>> computational chemistry.
>>
>> Apparently the government decided it would work for simulating bombs.
>> Good for them, it is better than setting them off to see if they still
>> work.
>>
>> The government must not want some other paradigm bad enough or they
>> would have coughed up enough money to build Blue Waters.
>>
>
> "The government" is an idiot. Fortunately for us, the Russians were even
> worse.

Pretty much got to agree with you there.  I can see why all those 
liberals get mad at you.  Have you extended this by induction to become 
a conservative?  Voting for Ron Paul?  Libertarian?
>
> Most of what is wrong with government stewardship of scientific research
> is mistakes we inherited or copied from the Soviets or the Nazis.

May I conclude you are also a skeptic about anthropogenic climate change 
since the alarm seems to mostly be a result of computer simulation?

>
> It is not inconceivable that the Soviets and the Nazis learned from IBM
> and General Electric.

Learned what?  Evil been around for a long time.  Mao and Stalin were 
evil all on their own.  As were some of the Brits for that matter. 
Pretty much all countries have awful things in their histories if you 
really look.  What the Romans did to Carthage would be genocide in 
today's vocabulary.  The salt was especially mean.
>
> When I get my cease and desist letter from IBM legal, I'll start to be
> more careful, but I really don't think they want to go there. We'll see.
> I want IBM out of the supercomputer business. What's so hard to
> understand about that?
>
> Robert.

I never said anything about being careful.  Where did that come from?

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'smttter IBMdroids Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> - 2011-08-31 22:15 -0400
  Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> - 2011-08-31 22:20 -0400
    Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-08-31 22:31 -0400
      Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 07:30 -0700
  Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2011-09-01 09:48 -0700
    Re: 'smttter IBMdroids nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-01 17:58 +0100
    Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Stephen Fuld <SFuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2011-09-01 10:58 -0700
      Re: 'smttter IBMdroids nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-01 18:51 +0100
    Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-09-01 15:42 -0400
    Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-01 18:19 -0500
      Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-09-01 20:57 -0400
      Re: 'smttter IBMdroids nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-02 09:17 +0100
      Re: 'smttter IBMdroids nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-02 09:19 +0100
        Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-02 04:44 -0500
          Re: 'smttter IBMdroids nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-02 11:39 +0100
            Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-02 11:14 -0500
        Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-02 04:47 -0500
          Re: 'smttter IBMdroids nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-02 11:26 +0100
          Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-09-02 08:48 -0400
          Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-09-02 09:29 -0400
  Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Del Cecchi <delcecchi@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 17:15 -0500
    Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 10:10 -0700
      Re: innovation from Armonk, was 'smttter IBMdroids John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2011-09-02 21:21 +0000
        Re: innovation from Armonk, was 'smttter IBMdroids nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-09-02 21:56 +0100
        Re: innovation from Armonk, was 'smttter IBMdroids Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-09-02 17:49 -0400
      Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Del Cecchi <delcecchi@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 18:04 -0500
        Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2011-09-03 00:16 +0100
          Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-03 14:25 -0400
            Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2011-09-03 20:09 +0100
        Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-03 22:02 -0400
          Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Del Cecchi <delcecchi@gmail.com> - 2011-09-03 21:50 -0500
            Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-03 23:52 -0400
      Re: 'smttter IBMdroids "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-09-05 08:26 -0700
        Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Stephen Fuld <SFuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2011-09-05 11:14 -0700
          Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-09-05 22:05 +0200
          Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-05 17:27 -0400
        Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-05 17:16 -0400
          Re: 'smttter IBMdroids "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-09-05 14:40 -0700
            Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-05 15:45 -0700
        Re: 'smttter IBMdroids Del Cecchi <delcecchi@gmail.com> - 2011-09-06 21:47 -0500

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