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| From | BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? |
| Date | 2011-09-03 10:49 -0700 |
| Organization | albasani.net |
| Message-ID | <j3tpb2$sg0$1@news.albasani.net> (permalink) |
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On 9/3/2011 1:53 AM, Ian Collins wrote: > On 09/ 3/11 08:45 PM, BGB wrote: >> On 9/2/2011 10:51 PM, Juha Nieminen wrote: >>> KaiWen<wenkai1987@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> 2. In runtime, the speed of the program written by C++ is<= the same >>>> program written by C >>> >>> Actually many equivalent constructs in C and C++ are such that it's >>> the exact opposite: C++ is significantly faster than C. >>> >>> Just two simple examples are qsort() vs. std::sort() , and strlen() >>> vs std::string::length(). Especially in the first case it's precisely >>> the language features that help the compiler make a faster executable. >> >> this again, comes down to coding practices... >> >> >> also, just how many people really use "qsort()" anyways?... >> IME, it is more often one of those largely forgotten functions (it is >> there, but more often people write out their own sort logic manually). >> >> (actually, it seems to be fairly common practice in C land for people to >> largely ignore much of the standard library, and to write their own >> logic for doing things). > > That says it all really, C++ programmers don't have to. > it is a choice though, and probably most C programmers don't mind so much, which is why they do it. it is possible it may be as much a stylistic/idiomatic/... conflict as a language one. for example, I use C a lot mostly because I have concerns like: being able to parse and analyze the source code with custom written tools; being able to have a reasonably consistent ABI (for all my ASM/... to interface with); being able to interface easily between my native code and my scripting language; ... if another person doesn't have these concerns, and may well be more motivated by saving a little effort or being able to more readily use higher-level abstractions, then using C++ may make a lot more sense for them.
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Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? KaiWen <wenkai1987@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 01:41 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-01 21:15 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? "Fred Zwarts \(KVI\)" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> - 2011-09-01 11:48 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 15:34 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? KaiWen <wenkai1987@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 19:09 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-02 14:39 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Krice <paulkp@mbnet.fi> - 2011-09-01 22:33 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-02 01:12 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com> - 2011-09-03 15:25 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-04 01:34 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-04 02:33 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com> - 2011-09-04 11:00 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Goran <goran.pusic@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 23:23 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-02 03:00 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Goran <goran.pusic@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 09:39 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 12:44 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 09:59 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-02 11:25 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-09-03 05:51 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-03 01:45 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-03 20:53 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-03 10:49 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-04 08:15 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-03 17:50 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-09-03 16:28 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-03 10:42 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? "Bo Persson" <bop@gmb.dk> - 2011-09-04 11:34 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-04 09:04 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-09-04 18:04 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-09-04 18:44 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-04 23:26 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-09-05 08:01 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-05 11:45 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-09-06 06:30 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 07:22 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-06 16:25 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 07:14 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-07 12:28 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-07 16:49 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Noah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-07 18:45 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-08 15:56 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com> - 2011-09-03 15:32 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-03 19:16 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-05 00:28 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-05 12:34 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 07:51 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-05 14:06 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 00:32 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 07:33 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-07 02:52 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-08 16:24 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 11:38 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-08 21:39 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 19:01 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 02:45 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 03:23 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-09-14 23:12 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 02:40 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 11:19 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-09 15:42 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 14:24 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Noah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-09 18:22 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-10 10:11 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Noah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-10 10:54 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-10 14:28 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-11 12:29 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-11 00:45 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-09-12 00:39 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-12 18:06 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-09-12 16:46 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-13 10:20 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-09-13 13:16 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-11 04:53 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-11 14:51 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-10 07:46 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? KaiWen <wenkai1987@gmail.com> - 2011-09-06 03:10 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 22:50 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? KaiWen <wenkai1987@gmail.com> - 2011-09-06 04:48 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-09-07 09:45 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-07 21:51 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? KaiWen <wenkai1987@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 00:15 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-09-08 12:14 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? KaiWen <wenkai1987@gmail.com> - 2011-09-08 07:14 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-09-06 13:52 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-06 11:47 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-06 11:50 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-09-06 21:04 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-09-06 20:37 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-06 15:10 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-09-06 21:14 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-09-07 00:40 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-09-06 23:59 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Noah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-09-06 16:26 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-06 14:55 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-09-07 00:51 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-09-06 23:29 -0500
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-09-07 09:06 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-07 19:09 +1200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-07 13:19 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2011-09-07 13:01 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-09-07 14:26 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-09-07 15:49 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-08 22:49 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-09-09 15:25 +0900
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 02:50 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 03:26 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-09 03:25 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 00:24 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-09-06 13:57 +0000
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-09-06 08:18 -0700
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-03 08:34 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? "A" <a@a.a> - 2011-09-01 11:50 +0200
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 10:53 +0100
Re: Generally, are the programs written by C++ slower than written by C 10% ? James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com> - 2011-09-03 15:11 -0700
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