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Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email?

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"Jorgen Grahn" <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 2011-08-11, NoHtmlMailsPlease wrote:
>> The user interface and text-handling facilities of my
>> LinuxETHoberon is so nice, that I hate to have to paste
>> the text to something like `evolution` to send it,
>> especially since I fetch mail by LinuxETHoberon.
>
> What's "a LinuxETHoberon"? I remember hearing about the Oberon
> environment, but that was 20 years ago.  I will assume below that it
> is (among other things) a mail client.
>
In 199x when my ISP said that I couldn't use Win3.1 and would have
to buy W95, I said screw-you and looked at linux and Oberon.
Oberon [without the gadgets extension] could be installed from
one 1M4:fd0 and contained pop3, smtp ..etc. for X86.
Oberon the descendant of Modula ..Pascal was developed by Wirth
at the top tech-institute in Switzerland. It's got a brilliant user
interface, which acme:plan9 -> wily:publicDomain copied somewhat.

>> The first time my ISP introduced sendAuthorisation,
>> I modified my LinuxETHoberon to handle it. Then a
>> few years later the ISP used a different type of
>> sendAuthorisation.  And I'm not interested to
>> modify my code again. The novelty had gone.
>
> Your only realistic options are
>
> - Your mail program relays mail to your ISP's server. Then it has to
>  support whatever unfortunate authentication mechanisms your ISP
>  chooses to use. (Mine chooses none: it relays all mail which comes
>  from inside the ISP's network.)
>
> - Your mail program can feed mail into the MTA of your Linux system
>  (sendmail, postfix, exim ...) and let that one be resposible for
>  relaying through the ISP's server. Any decent MTA has support for
>  your ISP's authentication mechanism.
>
OK, that's what I'd like to try. But as explained, I can't feed into the 
'stack'.
I have to feed in the plain-text, to some linux-system.
What I need is a testing procedure:
1. feedback/confirmation that 'linux-system' has correctly received the
   various fields: to, from, subject, mail-body.
2. feedback/confirm could be if/when I receive self-mailed to my gmail.

BTW I used to Cc from ISP-accountA to ISP-accountB, as a self-check.
But after the ISP changed its SendAuth protocol these self-checks falsely
confirmed.  Only after months of failed self-check to my EXTERNAL gmail,
did I realise that  <you know what>.

> If "LinuxETHoberon" cannot do either of those and you don't want to
> hack it, you're out of luck.
>
So now that I've only got access to my landline occasionally.
I had to buy a Win-capable device to access the available wireless 
connection.
So in the end M$ screwed me.

> /Jorgen
>
 

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Can I by-pass my ISP to email? "NoHtmlMailsPlease" <UsePlainText@dog.edu> - 2011-08-11 20:54 +0200
  Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? "Dave {Reply Address In.Sig}" <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2011-08-13 15:03 +0100
    Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? "NoHtmlMailsPlease" <UsePlainText@dog.edu> - 2011-08-14 08:45 +0200
      Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2011-08-14 13:49 +0100
      Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? "Dave {Reply Address In.Sig}" <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2011-08-14 16:19 +0100
        Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? unruh <unruh@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> - 2011-08-15 02:38 +0000
  Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2011-08-13 16:17 +0200
  Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-08-13 15:30 +0000
    Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2011-08-13 19:31 +0200
      Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? unruh <unruh@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> - 2011-08-14 11:44 +0000
        Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2011-08-14 16:07 +0200
          Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? "Dave {Reply Address In.Sig}" <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2011-08-14 16:14 +0100
          Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? unruh <unruh@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> - 2011-08-15 02:35 +0000
            Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2011-08-15 08:59 +0100
              Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? unruh <unruh@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> - 2011-08-15 13:28 +0000
                Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2011-08-15 15:24 +0100
              Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-08-16 14:05 +0000
  Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? Stefan Schmiedl <s@xss.de> - 2011-08-13 19:30 +0200
    Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? "NoHtmlMailsPlease" <UsePlainText@dog.edu> - 2011-08-14 09:11 +0200
  Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-08-13 20:49 +0000
    Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? "NoHtmlMailsPlease" <UsePlainText@dog.edu> - 2011-08-14 09:52 +0200
  Re: Can I by-pass my ISP to email? unruh <unruh@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> - 2011-08-14 11:41 +0000

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