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| Subject | Re: What came first the stars or the earth? |
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| From | "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> |
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| Date | 2025-09-15 12:04 +0200 |
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Den 14.09.2025 22:56, skrev Maciej Woźniak: > On 9/14/2025 9:10 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >> >> But this experiment is performed in the real world, >> See: >> https://paulba.no/paper/Hafele_Keating.pdf >> >> It is really two experiments: >> >> Experiment 1: >> Clock A and clock B are co-located on the ground. >> Clock A stays stationary on the ground while clock B is put on >> an aeroplane and flown around the Earth in the westwards direction. >> When the clocks again are co-located the clocks are compared. >> Result: >> Proper time of clock B is 273 ns more than the proper time of clock A- >> >> Experiment 2: >> Clock A and clock C are co-located on the ground. >> Clock A stays stationary on the ground while clock C is put on >> an aeroplane and flown around the Earth in the eastwards direction. >> When the clocks again are co-located the clocks are compared. >> Result: >> Proper time of clock C is 59 ns less than the proper time of clock A- >> > Sure, sure, planets are moving, very much > evidence for that, so we should agree that > angels pushing them are confirmed very > strongly. This comment of yours makes it clear that you have read and understood Hafele and Keating's paper. Well done! >> Maciej, now you can demonstrate how smart you are by calling >> Hafele and Keating "brainwashed religious maniacs". Did you forget this, Maciej? Or have you now, when you have read their paper, realised that Hafele and Keating are very good experimental physicists and not "brainwashed religious maniacs"? ------- BTW, Maciej: It is invisible blue fairies, not angels, that are pushing the planets along. Did you really not know that? -- Paul https://paulba.no/
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Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 13:34 -0700
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