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Re: How to write a "proper" math document

From AES <siegman@stanford.edu>
Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.math.mathematica
Subject Re: How to write a "proper" math document
Date 2011-07-09 11:32 +0000
Organization Steven M. Christensen and Associates, Inc and MathTensor, Inc.
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In article <iv6gqo$s5p$1@smc.vnet.net>,
 Richard Fateman <fateman@cs.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> I find it far preferable to take stuff out of a computer algebra system 
> as TeX and paste it into a static document.  This also provides an 
> opportunity to fix the broken displays.  E.g. we really don't expect a 
> display of f=ma   to  come out   f=am.   Or E=mc^2 to come out e=c^2m
> (note also that E=2.718... not energy). Mathematica thinks it knows 
> better than Einstein and Newton.

This is an absolutely valid and substantial observation in my opinion as 
well.  

The structuring of mathematical expressions -- that is, the choice of 
symbols or notation, and the organizing and grouping and ordering of 
terms within an expression -- is a vitally important feature in reading, 
grasping, recognizing, understanding, and internalizing what they are 
saying, and what are their connections to other expressions and 
concepts.  

There is no set of rules for doing this -- only a large body of 
informally accepted conventions that have evolved over time, but that 
are very widely used.  (Anyone who wrote a treatise on e-m theory and 
used E for the magnetic field and H for the E field would be a fool; 
even writing the Poynting vector as H cross E  with the normal meanings 
of those symbols would be unnecessarily stupid.)

I appreciate why Mathematica does -- even has to do -- what it does in 
structuring mathematical expressions in its internal operations.  But 
it's very hard work to convert between that and readable mathematical 
expressions.

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Re: How to write a "proper" math document "McHale, Paul" <Paul.McHale@excelitas.com> - 2011-07-05 09:13 +0000
  Re: How to write a "proper" math document AES <siegman@stanford.edu> - 2011-07-06 09:39 +0000
  Re: How to write a "proper" math document AES <siegman@stanford.edu> - 2011-07-06 09:40 +0000
    Re: How to write a "proper" math document Richard Fateman <fateman@cs.berkeley.edu> - 2011-07-07 11:31 +0000
      Re: How to write a "proper" math document AES <siegman@stanford.edu> - 2011-07-08 08:57 +0000
      Re: How to write a "proper" math document Peltio <peltio@twilight.zone> - 2011-07-08 09:09 +0000
        Re: How to write a "proper" math document Richard Fateman <fateman@cs.berkeley.edu> - 2011-07-09 11:34 +0000
  Re: How to write a "proper" math document "David Park" <djmpark@comcast.net> - 2011-07-07 11:29 +0000
    Re: How to write a "proper" math document AES <siegman@stanford.edu> - 2011-07-08 08:55 +0000
    Re: How to write a "proper" math document Richard Fateman <fateman@cs.berkeley.edu> - 2011-07-08 08:58 +0000
      Re: How to write a "proper" math document AES <siegman@stanford.edu> - 2011-07-09 11:32 +0000
      Re: How to write a "proper" math document AES <siegman@stanford.edu> - 2011-07-09 11:32 +0000
      Re: How to write a "proper" math document AES <siegman@stanford.edu> - 2011-07-09 11:44 +0000
    Re: How to write a "proper" math document Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz@mimuw.edu.pl> - 2011-07-12 10:59 +0000
      Re: How to write a "proper" math document Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz@mimuw.edu.pl> - 2011-07-13 07:13 +0000
      Re: How to write a "proper" math document Richard Fateman <fateman@cs.berkeley.edu> - 2011-07-13 07:17 +0000
      Re: How to write a "proper" math document Murray Eisenberg <murray@math.umass.edu> - 2011-07-14 09:28 +0000
      Re: How to write a "proper" math document Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz@mimuw.edu.pl> - 2011-07-15 01:24 +0000
  Re: How to write a "proper" math document "McHale, Paul" <Paul.McHale@excelitas.com> - 2011-07-07 11:33 +0000
  Re: How to write a "proper" math document "McHale, Paul" <Paul.McHale@excelitas.com> - 2011-07-07 11:38 +0000
    Re: How to write a "proper" math document AES <siegman@stanford.edu> - 2011-07-08 09:02 +0000
    Re: How to write a "proper" math document Armand Tamzarian <mike.honeychurch@gmail.com> - 2011-07-08 09:06 +0000
  Re: How to write a "proper" math document JUN <noeckel@gmail.com> - 2011-07-16 09:43 +0000

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