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Lewis wrote:

> In message <e77sra-dfd1.ln1@news.chingola.ch> 
>   Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
>
>> I had a devil of a job with Apple Mail late last year.  I'm sure it
>> wasn't always like this but when I add a new email, if it sees that it's
>> the same domain as an existing email address it uses the outgoing
>> username and password of that address, not the new one.
>
>> As it happened, at first my ISP wasn't checking that the outgoing
>> address matched the username/password combination.  When
>> they tightened that up I suddenly couldn't post from a load of those
>> addresses.
>
> Your ISP is run by morons. There is absolutely no reason to require that
> the outgoing address match the authenticated user.
>
> Get a new ISP. Oh, and never use your ISPs email servers anyway.

I've just revisited my notes on that and I realise I described it badly.

It was my hosting ISP, not the one I used to connect to the outside
world from home.  It's all history now because I shifted to another
supplier some time ago.

>> Yes you can go into the outgoing SMTP server settings and add a new
>> entry but it's a lousy user interface.  When you have a dozen or so
>> addresses to set up it is a real pain in the neck-
>
> The problem is not Mail.app nor Apple, the problem is the dumbasses you
> allow to handle your mail.

Actually it is a problem with Mail.app, because the drop down menu for
outgoing SMTP servers is too small.  Here's an example I found on the
web - notice how the Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) field truncates the
username.

<http://www.authsmtp.com/images/macmail-7.jpg>

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                Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-23 09:56 +1100
                Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 16:26 +0000
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                Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-19 02:58 +0000
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                Re: MailForge dead Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-06-19 21:20 -0700
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      Re: MailForge dead kmorgan@spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) - 2014-01-21 13:57 -0900
      Re: MailForge dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-01-31 10:33 +0100
        Re: MailForge dead Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-31 12:37 +0000
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      Re: MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 15:21 +0000
        Re: MailForge dead dont.spam.usenet@googlemail.com (Hauke Fath) - 2014-01-17 19:03 +0100
          Re: MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 18:59 +0000
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