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Re: OT: Oh Deere

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Subject Re: OT: Oh Deere
References <GhCrD.78061$uJ2.4148@fx27.iad> <udovqd107k2uiebb1pcf2onu4i05avd3uj@4ax.com>
From dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt)
Message-ID <ir758f-s4v.ln1@coop.radagast.org> (permalink)
Date 2018-09-29 14:36 -0700

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In article <udovqd107k2uiebb1pcf2onu4i05avd3uj@4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann  <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

>I fix computahs, monitors, printers, etc to support my decadent and
>lavish lifestyle.  When I'm asked to fix a device that has been coated
>with a condensed layer of smelly brown tar and combustion product, I
>either charge a fairly large amount for the cleaning, or I refuse to
>fix it.  There are plenty of failures that can be directly attributed
>to this layer crud.  For example, the fans tend to stick, optical
>limit switches in printers stop functioning, CD/DVD drive optical
>pickups don't work, controls become sticky, and push button switches
>fail to make contact.

I recall reading, years ago, that tobacco-smoke tar was the terror of
audio servicers working on tape decks.  The tar would gunk up the
heads something awful.  There were other problems with preamps and
receivers... volume and balance controls would become noisy, selector
switches intermittent, and so forth.

>When cleaning, I don't want to volatize that crap and make my palatial
>office stink equally disgusting.  So, I do the work outside, which is
>somewhat awkward.

One trick that can help, apparently, is to open the chassis up and
expose it to direct, bright summer sunlight for several days.  The
heat and UV can help break down the tars.

Consumer Reports used to (and perhaps still does) use tobacco-smoke
tar as the exemplar "difficult to remove" test material for comparing
glass cleaners and surface cleaners.

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OT: Oh Deere Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2018-09-28 20:26 -0700
  Re: OT: Oh Deere <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-09-29 04:05 +0000
    Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-09-29 08:58 +0000
      Re: OT: Oh Deere Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-09-29 10:33 +0100
  Re: OT: Oh Deere tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-09-28 21:39 -0700
  Re: OT: Oh Deere bitrex <user@example.net> - 2018-09-29 00:43 -0400
  Re: OT: Oh Deere DLUNU <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@DLU.org> - 2018-09-29 08:15 +0000
    Re: OT: Oh Deere jurb6006@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 08:12 -0700
  Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2018-09-29 14:13 +0200
    Re: OT: Oh Deere <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-09-29 12:46 +0000
      Re: OT: Oh Deere jurb6006@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 08:22 -0700
      Re: OT: Oh Deere whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 12:28 -0700
    Re: OT: Oh Deere jurb6006@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 08:16 -0700
  Re: OT: Oh Deere bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 10:04 -0700
    Re: OT: Oh Deere John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-09-29 12:33 -0700
  Re: OT: Oh Deere amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2018-09-29 13:12 -0500
    Re: OT: Oh Deere Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2018-09-30 01:09 -0700
  Re: OT: Oh Deere Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-29 12:48 -0700
    Re: OT: Oh Deere tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 13:30 -0700
      Re: OT: Oh Deere Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-30 07:09 -0700
  Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-09-29 14:03 -0700
    Re: OT: Oh Deere dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt) - 2018-09-29 14:36 -0700
      Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-09-29 22:05 -0700
        Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-09-30 12:23 +0000
          Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-09-30 10:03 -0700
            Re: OT: Oh Deere tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 10:27 -0700
            Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-09-30 17:56 +0000
              Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-09-30 11:10 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-09-30 21:20 +0000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-09-30 16:14 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere krw@notreal.com - 2018-09-30 21:12 -0400
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-01 10:33 -0400
                Re: OT: Oh Deere George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-01 07:53 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-01 19:04 -0400
                Re: OT: Oh Deere George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-02 05:59 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:32 +0000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-02 11:45 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-02 20:15 -0400
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Mikko OH2HVJ <mikko.syrjalahti@nospam.fi> - 2018-10-03 12:26 +0300
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-03 10:46 +0000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-03 10:09 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-03 12:13 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-03 16:40 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-03 16:55 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-03 22:09 +0000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-03 16:21 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:27 +0000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-04 15:53 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com> - 2018-10-04 23:58 +0100
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-04 23:51 +0000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-03 18:36 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere DLUNU <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@DLU.org> - 2018-10-01 16:22 +0000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:26 +0000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-02 10:29 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-01 15:00 +0000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-01 09:52 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-01 17:38 +0000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2018-10-02 10:49 +1000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-01 19:25 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:42 +0000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-02 10:19 -0400
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-01 19:08 -0400
            Re: OT: Oh Deere Steve Wilson <9fe142ac@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 13:28 -0700
              Re: OT: Oh Deere Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-01 14:08 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-01 16:30 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 16:48 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-01 16:48 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-01 19:34 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-02 08:04 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:49 +0000
                Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-03 10:13 -0700
              Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-01 16:10 -0700
                Re: OT: Oh Deere amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2018-10-01 20:01 -0500
            Re: OT: Oh Deere gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-02 09:16 -0700
    Re: OT: Oh Deere Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-09-29 22:54 +0000
      Re: OT: Oh Deere bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-09-29 19:34 -0700
        Re: OT: Oh Deere bitrex <user@example.net> - 2018-10-04 19:22 -0400
      Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-09-29 22:28 -0700
        Re: OT: Oh Deere Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-09-30 08:26 +0100
          Re: OT: Oh Deere DLUNU <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@DLU.org> - 2018-09-30 10:55 +0000
      Re: OT: Oh Deere bitrex <user@example.net> - 2018-10-04 19:18 -0400
      Re: OT: Oh Deere Pomegranate Bastard <pommyB@dsl.pipex.com> - 2018-10-08 11:56 +0100
    Re: OT: Oh Deere "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2018-09-30 18:58 -0400
      Re: OT: Oh Deere Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-09-30 19:14 -0700
  Re: OT: Oh Deere Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-01 17:06 -0700

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