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Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin?

From	Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.msdos.batch
Subject	Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin?
Date	2021-09-11 09:44 +0100
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Scott Lurndal wrote:

> on second thought, there must be something in between:
> a. A "real" admin
> b.                 A user with admin privileges
> c. The user

Yes, being a member of the admin group dos not automatically mean you 
are *using* all your admin rights

if you are logged in as your admin user, open a CMD window
then open another CMD window "as administrator"

look at the title of each CMD window

try out some harmless commands within each of them, e.g.

whoami /priv

arp -d *

route add

> I base that on the fact that if I type the command in a user cmd prompt:
>   c:\path-to\openvpn\bin\openvpn.exe vpnconfigfile.conf
> it will fail (if I run it as the user) to set the routing table properly.

I can't remember if openvpn calls the network APIs, or if it spawns to 
the route.exe or netsh.exe commands

> However, if I type the exact same command in an admin window, it will work.
> 
> Hence, the user (even with admin privileges) must still be only midway
> toward being a "real" admin given the user (even with admin privileges)
> can't successfully run the necessary route commands to get onto VPN.

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Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-10 02:34 +0300
  Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2021-09-10 19:08 +1200
    Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2021-09-10 04:45 -0400
      Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-11 12:18 +0300
        Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-09-11 10:26 +0100
          Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-11 22:08 +0300
            Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-09-11 20:15 +0100
          Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-12 13:25 +0300
      Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2021-09-12 06:58 +1200
        Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-11 22:59 +0300
    Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-11 00:40 +0300
      Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-09-11 08:57 +0100
        Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-11 11:26 +0300
          Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-11 11:33 +0300
            Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-09-11 09:44 +0100
      Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2021-09-11 11:03 +0200
        Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-09-11 10:05 +0100
          Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2021-09-12 07:15 +1200
        Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-11 13:00 +0300
        Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2021-09-11 17:29 -0400
          Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2021-09-12 09:48 +1200
            Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2021-09-11 18:54 -0400
              Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2021-09-12 11:30 +1200
                Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2021-09-11 23:47 -0400
          Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-12 06:00 +0300
            Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-12 12:11 +0300
  Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2021-09-10 16:47 +0700
    Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-11 00:22 +0300
  Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2021-09-12 10:25 +0100
    Re: Why Windows 10 batch admin isn't the same as its GUI admin? Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> - 2021-09-12 14:34 +0300

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