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Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care?

From Aragorn <aragorn@chatfactory.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.os.linux
Subject Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care?
Date 2011-05-04 15:19 +0200
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On Wednesday 04 May 2011 12:03 in alt.os.linux, somebody identifying as
flatfish+++ wrote...

> On Wed, 04 May 2011 11:52:08 +0200, Aragorn wrote:
> 
>> On Wednesday 04 May 2011 11:09 in alt.os.linux, somebody identifying
>> as flatfish+++ wrote...
>> 
>>> It's been twenty years and Linux desktop has gone no place.
>> 
>> Which does of course entail that it's also not going South, like your
>> beloved Wintendo has.
> 
> Windows is number one.....

Because it's being pushed down everyone's throat with the acquisition of
most new home and office desktop PCs.  This is already known to
everyone.  Big deal.

My old computer blew up a while ago.  I bought a new PC two weeks ago,
from a shop that had a specific PC model on offer as an Easter
promotion campaign.  They had to assemble one specifically for me - but
with all the standard components - because all the pre-built ones had
Windows installed on them and the serial numbers et al had already been
entered and the stickers applied.  

Mine has the exact same specs and the exact same hardware, but it was
some 100 Euro cheaper as I didn't have to buy the Windows license. 
I've had them put in the hard disk from the computer that had died
(alongside of the new and still blank hard disk the machine came
equipped with by default), and it booted up in my old GNU/Linux system. 
Works like a charm.  So what's the problem?

> Stop deluding yourself.

I'm not deluding myself at anything.  GNU/Linux works for me, and for
millions of other people.  Why should I give a hoot about your
so-beloved toy operating system?

>>> Why waste time on it?
>> 
>> I'm not wasting any time on it.  I'm using it.  Quite happily so.
>> Wouldn't want anything else.
> 
> So you are amongst the 1 percenters.

More like 5 percent.  And if you look at this Wikipedia page here...

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_adoption

... it says, among other things, the following...

<quote>
        "Caitlyn Martin, researching retail market numbers in the 
        summer of 2010 also concluded that the traditional numbers 
        mentioned for Linux desktop adoption were far too low:

                "It seems like almost every day someone in the tech 
                press or someone commenting in a technical forum will 
                claim that Linux adoption on the desktop (including 
                laptops) is insignificant. The number that is thrown 
                around is 1%. These claims are even repeated by some 
                who advocate for Linux adoption. Both the idea that 
                Linux market share on the desktop is insignificant 
                and the 1% figure are simply false and have been for 
                many years... Where does the 1% number come from? 
                There are two sources: very old data and web counters. 
                The problem with using web counters to try and 
                ascertain market share is that they generally only 
                include websites that have paid to be counted. That 
                pretty much guarantees that Windows will be 
                overcounted."
                -- Caitlyn Martin"
</quote>

... and this...:

<quote>
        "I don't believe that the desktop Linux market share is barely 
        1%. I think it is a lot higher. I have no good data to share; 
        I base my assessment on experience and knowing the industry. 
        There is something else that is even more persuasive, and 
        that is how Microsoft behaves. If Linux is so insignificant, 
        why do they pay so much attention to it?
        -- Carla Schroder, Linux Today"
        
</quote>

... and this...:

<quote>
        "Gartner claimed that Linux-powered personal computers 
        accounted for 4% of unit sales in 2008."
</quote>

This particular Wikipedia page also further addresses some of the things
I've said in my previous reply to you (and which GNU/Linux advocates
have been trying to convey to you and your Wintendo-fan friends for
years already).

It also says this...:

<quote>
        "TechRepublic writer Jack Wallen expands on this barrier, saying 
        in August 2008:

                "Why would anyone choose Windows over Linux?... In my 
                seriously biased opinion, I think this question is 
                answered with a simple conspiracy theory: Microsoft is 
                doing everything it can to keep the public blind to 
                Linux. Think about it? Remember the whole Wintel 
                conspiracy where MS and Intel played off of each other 
                to continue their strangle-hold monopoly in the PC 
                industry? That era played a huge part in the blinding 
                of consumers. Top that with the business practices MS 
                forces upon big box shops to insure (sic) their 
                operating system is sold on nearly every PC sold and 
                you can see that conspiracy is more of a reality than 
                one might think.""
</quote>

... As well as this...:

<quote>
        "Linux's credibility has also been under attack at times, but 
        as Ron Miller of LinuxPlanet points out:

            "...the fact that Linux is being criticized is probably a 
                good thing.

                First of all, it shows that Linux is making headway in 
                the enterprise and beginning to have an impact on 
                competitors and they are reacting to that. Secondly, 
                it's healthy to take a long look at any solution and 
                analyze its strengths and weaknesses and the economic 
                ramifications of one choice over another.

                Ultimately, consumers and decision makers need to look 
                carefully at the data including the sources of the data
                and the criticism and decide if Linux is the right 
                decision, but as more people choose Linux and it finds 
                its place in the market, it is bound to wear a target. 
                That's simply the price you pay for success in the 
                marketplace.""
</quote>

And finally, *this* little gem, from the horse's mouth...:

<quote>
        "In January 2001, Microsoft CEO Bill Gates explained the 
        attraction of adopting Linux in an internal memo that was 
        released in the Comes vs Microsoft case. He said:

                "Our most potent Operating System competitor is Linux 
                and the phenomena around Open Source and free software. 
                The same phenomena fuels competitors to all of our 
                products. The ease of picking up Linux to learn it or 
                to modify some piece of it is very attractive. The 
                academic community, start up companies, foreign 
                governments and many other constituencies are putting 
                their best work into Linux.""
</quote>

Note the words "The ease of picking up Linux [...] is very attractive".

> Your point?

... *My* point is that *you* don't *have* a point.

> Snip----More pipe dreams.....

Please carefully quote any of what I have said in my reply to you which
would have been a dream of any sorts, let alone a pipe dream.  Here's a
hint: you can't, because I didn't write any of such stuff.  The Usenet
archives of Google are my witness.

Don't make up shit about people - shit which you can't even prove
because it *is* shit - just to win your debate.  It makes you a sore
loser and a terrible advocate for your cause - whatever your cause is,
because as GNU/Linux and FLOSS are all about Freedom and Choice, I
don't see why any of this market share nonsense would be any of your
concern.  Unless you're being paid by Microsoft to make up this
nonsense, of course.  

It's either that, or you are suffering from severe psychosis.  I'll
leave it up to you to come out of the closet about either (or both) of
those two scenarios.  But let's just say that after all of these years
of seeing you post the same old drivel, I think I have a pretty good
idea on what your motivation is.  But unlike you, I don't generally
insult or humiliate people, so I'll keep that opinion to myself.

Have a nice day.

-- 
*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

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Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 05:09 -0400
  Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Aragorn <aragorn@chatfactory.invalid> - 2011-05-04 11:52 +0200
    Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 06:03 -0400
      Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Aragorn <aragorn@chatfactory.invalid> - 2011-05-04 15:19 +0200
        Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-05-04 15:31 +0200
          Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-05-04 15:00 +0000
            Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-05-04 17:16 +0200
            Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-05-04 16:20 +0100
              Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-04 10:28 -0500
                Re: chrisv is a useless turd...Does anyone even care? "carlos" <carlos@nospam.com> - 2011-05-04 11:31 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-05-04 17:45 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-04 11:11 -0500
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-04 12:23 -0500
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-05-04 17:13 +0100
                Linux Desktop...Does anyone ever ask if people want it? Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2011-05-04 17:30 +0100
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone ever ask if people want it? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 13:28 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone ever ask if people want it? Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> - 2011-05-04 23:45 +0000
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone ever ask if people want it? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-05-04 20:15 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone ever ask if people want it? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-05-04 17:47 -0700
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-05-04 16:28 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-04 17:27 -0500
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 22:16 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-05-04 23:03 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-05 16:38 +0000
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-05-05 09:52 -0700
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-05 12:04 -0500
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-05-05 10:15 -0700
            Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2011-05-04 16:50 +0100
            Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 13:05 -0400
          Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 13:04 -0400
            Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Aragorn <aragorn@chatfactory.invalid> - 2011-05-04 19:28 +0200
              Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-05-04 23:35 +0100
          Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 07:54 +0000
            Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? marco <marco@invalidaddress.com> - 2011-05-06 16:53 +0200
            Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-05-06 12:56 -0400
              Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-06 13:09 -0400
        Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2011-05-05 10:35 +0000
          Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Aragorn <aragorn@chatfactory.invalid> - 2011-05-05 13:45 +0200
  Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? philo <philo@invalid.not> - 2011-05-04 06:05 -0500
  Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-04 04:42 -0700
    Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Aragorn <aragorn@chatfactory.invalid> - 2011-05-04 15:28 +0200
      Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-05 21:53 +0200
        Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Aragorn <aragorn@chatfactory.invalid> - 2011-05-06 11:26 +0200
    Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 13:01 -0400
  Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2011-05-04 13:37 +0100
  Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Tinker Tanker <nosuch@_INVALID_no.gov> - 2011-05-04 08:45 -0400
    Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 13:02 -0400
      Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Tinker Tanker <nosuch@_INVALID_no.gov> - 2011-05-04 13:17 -0400
        Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 13:35 -0400
          Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Tinker Tanker <nosuch@_INVALID_no.gov> - 2011-05-04 13:59 -0400
            Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 14:12 -0400
              Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Tinker Tanker <nosuch@_INVALID_no.gov> - 2011-05-04 14:23 -0400
          Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? marco <marco@invalidaddress.com> - 2011-05-04 20:19 +0200
        Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 00:20 -0700
          Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-05-06 01:14 -0700
          Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-05-06 12:37 +0100
            Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-06 07:33 -0500
      Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-04 13:25 -0500
    Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2011-05-05 10:16 +0000
      Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Tinker Tanker <nosuch@_INVALID_no.gov> - 2011-05-05 11:57 -0400
      Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-05-05 16:36 +0000
        Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-05-05 20:03 +0200
  Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? WLS <wls15202@NOSPAMyahoo.com> - 2011-05-04 10:34 -0400
    Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-04 09:51 -0500
      Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? "carlos" <carlos@nospam.com> - 2011-05-04 10:57 -0400
      Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-04 11:14 -0500
    Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 13:09 -0400
      Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? WLS <wls15202@NOSPAMyahoo.com> - 2011-05-04 14:00 -0400
        Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 14:14 -0400
      Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2011-05-05 10:50 +0000
        Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2011-05-05 16:18 +0100
          Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-05-05 09:37 -0600
            Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-05 11:43 -0400
            Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-05-07 07:45 -0400
              Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-07 17:04 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-05-07 17:52 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-07 18:01 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-05-07 15:21 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-07 15:24 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-05-07 16:06 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-07 22:24 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-05-07 20:48 +0000
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-05-08 00:27 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-05-07 18:05 -0600
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-05-08 02:51 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-07 23:44 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-05-08 07:15 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-08 10:04 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-05-07 20:06 -0600
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-08 08:50 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-05-08 00:22 -0700
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-05-08 11:20 +0200
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                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-09 13:14 -0500
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-05-08 07:53 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-08 20:31 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-05-08 15:26 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-05-08 13:55 -0700
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-05-08 17:01 -0600
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-09 07:39 -0500
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-05-07 17:40 -0700
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-08 08:00 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-05-07 23:10 -0700
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-08 08:56 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-05-08 00:18 -0700
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-08 20:51 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-05-08 13:18 -0700
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-05-08 11:46 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-08 11:57 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-05-08 12:00 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-05-08 13:30 -0700
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-05-08 17:10 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-08 17:15 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-05-08 18:14 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-08 18:24 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-05-09 01:04 -0400
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                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-05-08 18:28 -0700
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-05-08 19:48 -0600
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-08 20:34 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-05-08 15:34 -0400
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                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-09 07:46 -0500
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                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> - 2011-05-06 07:46 +0000
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 11:17 +0000
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-06 07:25 -0500
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings "Catch the Wave" <zm@nospam.com> - 2011-05-06 09:30 -0400
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-05-06 18:41 +0100
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-06 14:32 -0500
              Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-06 01:35 +0000
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-05-05 22:05 -0400
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-06 08:26 +0000
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-05-06 12:44 -0400
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-06 12:47 -0400
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-06 19:32 +0000
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-09 07:54 -0500
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings "Nest of Angels" <nest@nospam.com> - 2011-05-09 09:23 -0400
                Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-05-09 21:33 +0000
              Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 07:35 +0000
            Re: Some people are sick of COLA cross postings Sinister Midget III <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 06:24 -0500
  Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2011-05-04 20:19 -0400
    Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-04 22:18 -0400
      Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2011-05-05 10:56 +0000
      Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2011-05-06 09:48 -0400
        Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Big Steel <Steel98@steel98.com> - 2011-05-06 11:20 -0400
          Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? marco <marco@invalidaddress.com> - 2011-05-06 17:22 +0200
            Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-05-06 15:41 +0000
              Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Aragorn <aragorn@chatfactory.invalid> - 2011-05-06 18:07 +0200
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-05-06 10:14 -0600
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-06 12:15 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-05-06 16:52 +0000
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-05-06 12:57 -0400
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-05-06 18:02 +0000
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-06 13:46 -0500
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-06 12:04 -0500
                Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? "Catch the Wave" <zm@nospam.com> - 2011-05-06 13:21 -0400
          Re: Linux Desktop...Does anyone even care? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2011-05-06 11:39 -0400

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