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Re: doctype not found?

From "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: doctype not found?
Date 2011-04-20 12:51 -0400
Organization Shagnasty Software
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geoff@invalid.invalid wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty repliedto hisself:
>>> I just ran your page by the validator again, and it still says it can't
>>> find the doctype. 
>>> 
>>> Errors found while checking this document as HTML 4.01 Transitional!
>>> Result:   5 Errors, 5 warning(s) 
>>> 
>>> Maybe it is because of the blank line before it. Maybe it is because of
>>> the single-quote marks in your doctype. Remove the blank line in the
>>> resultant HTML and copy/use this (with double-quotes):
>>> 
>>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
>>>    "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
>>
>> And I think I'll add this, which is still OT for a PHP group, but I
>> see it as important. In your CSS, you've assigned a font-size of 80%
>> ... that is below my aged eyes' ability. And you're using Verdana.
>> Use 100% for your base font, and drop the overly-large Verdana font.
>>
>> body {
>> background-image: url(pattern.png) ;
>> font-size:80%; /* 62.5*/
>> font-family:verdana,helvetica,arial,sans-serif;
>> line-height:1;
>> /*behavior: url(csshover2.htc);*/
>>}
>>
>> line-height: 1  is less than normal. You should drop that.
>> Was 62.5%??  Were you reading about the horrible Clagnut method?
>> See:  http://tekrider.net/html/fontsize.php
> 
> I will take a look at the font sizes but just for the minute I have
> gone back to 
> 
> http://www.micro-active.com/index.php
> 
> which is seen by W3C HTML Checker as HTML 4.01 Strict and sees no
> errors.

At the moment...

> But if I add a line such as
> error_reporting(E_ALL);
> I then get loads of errors in the Checker.

Well, yeah. "errors" are not valid HTML!

> Plus in the normal browser window I see "undefined constant firsttime"
> line 5

Follow Alvaro's advice about " constants " and such. Your page inserts
HTML *above* (preceding) the doctype about your errors, thus blowing the
validity of it. Look at the source!

> see
> http://www.micro-active.com/index2.php

Errors found while checking this document as HTML 4.01 Transitional!
Result:   22 Errors, 8 warning(s) 

In your CSS, please don't change the font-size and boldness of links
when hovered. Doing so makes the text jump about. A color change should
be sufficient.

-- 
   -bts
   -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul

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doctype not found? geoff@invalid.invalid - 2011-04-20 08:17 +0100
  Re: doctype not found? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-20 05:24 -0400
  Re: doctype not found? "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2011-04-20 06:40 -0400
  Re: doctype not found? "Álvaro G. Vicario" <alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX@demogracia.com.invalid> - 2011-04-20 13:00 +0200
    Re: doctype not found? geoff@invalid.invalid - 2011-04-20 13:20 +0100
      Re: doctype not found? "Álvaro G. Vicario" <alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX@demogracia.com.invalid> - 2011-04-20 14:28 +0200
        Re: doctype not found? geoff@invalid.invalid - 2011-04-20 15:12 +0100
          Re: doctype not found? "Álvaro G. Vicario" <alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX@demogracia.com.invalid> - 2011-04-20 18:05 +0200
            Re: doctype not found? geoff@invalid.invalid - 2011-04-20 23:10 +0100
              Re: doctype not found? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-20 23:48 -0400
                Re: doctype not found? geoff@invalid.invalid - 2011-04-21 06:33 +0100
      Re: doctype not found? "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2011-04-20 09:17 -0400
        Re: doctype not found? "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2011-04-20 10:49 -0400
          Re: doctype not found? geoff@invalid.invalid - 2011-04-20 16:29 +0100
            Re: doctype not found? "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> - 2011-04-20 12:51 -0400

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