Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff

From	Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.javascript
Subject	Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff
Date	2021-06-13 18:18 +0200
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Michael Haufe (TNO):

> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 8:21:10 AM UTC-5, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>> On 2021-05-26, Michael Haufe (TNO) <t...@thenewobjective.com> wrote: 
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 1:33:27 AM UTC-5, Mostowski Collapse wrote: 
>>>> Hint, if you want to make websites that work 
>>>> on mobile and desktop, there are other 
>>>> approaches than just having elephant font size. 
>>>
>>> The font size is relative to the viewport size.
>> That's a pretty weird thing to do, to be fair.
> 
> Uncommon yes, but not that weird:
> 
> <https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2016/05/fluid-typography/>
> <https://web.archive.org/web/20200926083516/https://www.csshero.org/css-viewport-units-css-hero/>
> <https://css-tricks.com/viewport-sized-typography/>

I think someone misunderstood the idea of viewport based units. Viewport
based units are ok for the overall layout. But having *text* sized based
on the viewport makes no sense at all besides any demo to show what cool
tricks people found out. Also see the demo on
<https://css-tricks.com/viewport-sized-typography/> with the "I resize."
text which always fits the viewport - nobody needs this for *real*
textual content except a few special use cases to display banners etc..

A font size of 1 em is *always* readable on *any* device since the
browser is designed this way that "1 em" is the normal font size. So
using other font sizes should only be done for a good reason, e.g.
bigger fonts for headlines or using a big font to display a single short
message which fills the viewport. But usually you don't use dynamic font
sizes just because the size of the viewport changes.

For example:

Normally I don't use my desktop browser full screen since most sites
don't need it and don't use a full width view port to display more
information anyway. But in some cases I put the browser to full screen
size to make use of it - e.g. when using an online project management
tool where the additional space can be used to display more columns on
the kanban board etc.. It would be totally stupid if the font then would
be enlarged just because the viewport is bigger.

Or in other words: when I as a user make the viewport bigger or smaller
I don't want to get bigger or smaller text but more or less content.

-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-24 19:25 -0700
  Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 09:34 +0200
    Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-25 06:11 -0700
      Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 18:35 +0200
        Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-25 11:06 -0700
          Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 20:28 +0200
            Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 20:30 +0200
              Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-25 11:39 -0700
              Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-25 11:38 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 20:47 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 20:54 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 20:59 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 21:03 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-05-25 19:42 +0000
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 22:05 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 22:27 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 22:01 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-06-13 17:53 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-25 11:51 -0700
              Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 20:34 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2021-05-26 01:11 +0000
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-26 08:33 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-26 08:37 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-06-13 18:06 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-26 06:14 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-05-26 13:21 +0000
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-26 06:38 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-05-26 13:56 +0000
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-26 07:08 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-05-26 14:15 +0000
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-26 07:34 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-05-26 16:00 +0000
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-26 09:50 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-05-26 19:12 +0000
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-06-13 18:31 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-06-13 18:25 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-06-13 18:18 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-26 08:29 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-06-13 17:55 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-06-13 10:03 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2021-06-13 10:07 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2021-06-13 10:12 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2021-06-13 10:18 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2021-06-30 11:18 -0700
            Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-25 11:42 -0700

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