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| From | despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.misc |
| Subject | Re: The lure of retro computing |
| Date | 2014-05-06 16:19 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <icsiom4q48.fsf@home.home> (permalink) |
| References | <lkbaa8$61u$1@solani.org> <87k39yy8yx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> |
Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> writes: > Only I feel sorry for the > young programmers who have to jump straight to the complexities without > having the luxury of understanding *everything* of a small > microcomputer. Micros are one thing, but I started with an IBM 1401. Enlightened users avoided IBM's attempts at an OS and programmed the machine without an OS in the way. The manuals gave instruction timings, and the machine made it's registers easily accessible. Of course you don't need an OS for read a card, print a line, read a tape record. But the machines came with disks too. You did your own record deblocking, disk file allocation, invented your own access methods. You really did know _everything_ going on in the machine. But I'm not drawn to those machines, time has passed. I can live without compiles taking minutes to hours. I remember when computers first started dealing with lower case. I wasn't in favor. Seemed to me, we had way too many characters already. You can communicate fine without lower case. Then people wanted proportional characters. I felt the same way, a crap load of computing just to stick a few more characters on a line, and simple formatting using spaces no longer worked. Now computers even support left to right languages mixed in with right to left in the same document. Sometimes we are just too clever. I had always hoped some things would be too complex for computers and we'd simplify our language(s) to deal with it. Oh well. -- Dan Espen
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Re: The lure of retro computing Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-06 19:41 +0000
Re: The lure of retro computing Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-06 22:59 +0300
Re: The lure of retro computing despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen) - 2014-05-06 16:19 -0400
Re: The lure of retro computing Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-07 00:19 +0300
Re: The lure of retro computing "G. Paul Ziemba" <paul+usenet@w6yx.stanford.edu> - 2014-05-07 06:06 +0000
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Re: The lure of retro computing Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-09 10:08 +0100
Re: The lure of retro computing Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2014-05-06 21:09 +0000
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